I was also hoping that would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800 From: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> To: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig) Message-ID: <20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu mailto:20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist would take care of that.
It has something to do with entitlements I think....
M
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
Hi, Miller.
I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Hi Dan.
Thanks for your help.
MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK. Built-in audio input and output. No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there. No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
I hope this helps.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
I was also hoping that would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800 From: Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu To: Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig) Message-ID: 20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist would take care of that.
It has something to do with entitlements I think....
M
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
Hi, Miller.
I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?
In Terminal run:
tccutil reset Microphone
On my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I see a popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with the wrong info string, although that's a different issue.)
I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking for permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch as both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The system uses the bundle id when registering th app in the privacy list.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan.
Thanks for your help.
MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK. Built-in audio input and output. No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there. No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
I hope this helps.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
I was also hoping that would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800 From: Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu To: Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig) Message-ID: 20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist would take care of that.
It has something to do with entitlements I think....
M
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
Hi, Miller.
I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Hi Dan,
I just did that and loaded Pd. Sadly, Pd does not ask for permission to the mic but it does ask for permission to access my Documents folder. Same error when I switch on DSP.
Should I try deleting all Pd plists in existence?
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?
In Terminal run:
tccutil reset MicrophoneOn my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I see a popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with the wrong info string, although that's a different issue.)
I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking for permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch as both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The system uses the bundle id when registering th app in the privacy list.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan.
Thanks for your help.
MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK. Built-in audio input and output. No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there. No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
I hope this helps.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
I was also hoping that would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800 From: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> To: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig) Message-ID: <20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu mailto:20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist would take care of that.
It has something to do with entitlements I think....
M
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
Hi, Miller.
I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
On Nov 4, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
I just did that and loaded Pd. Sadly, Pd does not ask for permission to the mic but it does ask for permission to access my Documents folder. Same error when I switch on DSP.
Should I try deleting all Pd plists in existence?
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you try resetting the Microphone permissions again then starting Pd?
In Terminal run:
tccutil reset MicrophoneOn my 10.14 system, running that clears the Microphone privacy list and I see a popup requesting mic access when toggling on dsp. (Unfortunately with the wrong info string, although that's a different issue.)
I'm wondering if this is a result of the system registering the GUI asking for permissions but the core is what really needs it, so there is a mismatch as both have different bund ids, ie. org.puredata.pd & org.puredata.pd.pd-gui. The system uses the bundle id when registering th app in the privacy list.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan.
Thanks for your help.
MBP 15-inch 2017 / 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 I’m attempting to use the built-in audio input and output on the laptop. I do have Blackhole installed, too. No JACK. Built-in audio input and output. No, and that might be the issue. The program never requested access. Other applications did request access, such as Live. Those are listed there. No, because Pd is not listed as an application, currently.
I hope this helps.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
I was also hoping that would help.
Ricky, then we need more info:
- What's the machine?
- What audio devices do you have?
- Which devices are set for audio input and audio output?
- Is Pd listed in the System Preferences app Security & Privacy panel's Privacy tab for the Microphone?
- Did you try toggling off, then on the Microphone access privacy setting, and restarting Pd?
I'm still running macOS 10.14 and the 10.15 machines at work are all out for use during the lockdown here, so I cannot test it personally.
Miller, perhaps what we need is a better Portaudio error message as this may be unrelated to the permissions. I can look into that now.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:12 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:52:45 -0800 From: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> To: Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.513 test5 released (IOhannes m zm??lnig) Message-ID: <20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu mailto:20201103215245.GA578719@ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well, hmm, Iwas hoping Dan's new entitlements declarations in info.plist would take care of that.
It has something to do with entitlements I think....
M
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 04:35:23PM -0500, Ricky Graham wrote:
Hi, Miller.
I???m not sure if this build was in any way intended to address the error opening audio: Internal PortAudio issue I am receiving but unfortunately this error persists with your new test build on macOS Catalina 10.15.7. Anything else I could/should try?
Ricky
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCCthen rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m...
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pdFor me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifierwhich is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m...
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & forth in a bug issue there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & forth in a bug issue there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
You can open an issue with your original text and we can paste the relevant parts of this thread there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & forth in a bug issue there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via:
rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC
then rebooting:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave
Before you do that, can you try running both of the following?
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd
For me, running either of these results in
tccutil: No such bundle identifier
which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
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Issue has now been opened on Github. I tried to be as detailed a possible to save you some work.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
You can open an issue with your original text and we can paste the relevant parts of this thread there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & forth in a bug issue there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Yields: Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui
tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd Yields: tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.)
Ricky
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote: > > The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via: > > rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC > > then rebooting: > > https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave > > Before you do that, can you try running both of the following? > > tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > > tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd > > For me, running either of these results in > > tccutil: No such bundle identifier > > which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer...
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As a follow up to the list: it seems this issue is an audio settings/permissions problem that may happen after upgrading to macOS 10.15. It doesn't appear to be something we can fix in Pd.
The whole discussion is on the Github issue: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1208 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1208
On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Ricky Graham rickygrahammusic@gmail.com wrote:
Issue has now been opened on Github. I tried to be as detailed a possible to save you some work.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
You can open an issue with your original text and we can paste the relevant parts of this thread there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, let’s handle this on Github.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have a Github account? At this point, it would be easier to do back & forth in a bug issue there.
On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Dan,
Starting Pd after running those lines only yields a permissions request pertaining to my Documents folder.
I nuked the folder you listed and restarted my machine. Starting Pd yields a crash. I’m sending the report to you off list.
Ricky
On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so that confirms it uses the bundle id from the Pd .app, aka what is set in the Info.plist. Strangely this is not used in 10.14 but is in 10.15, or at least the tool doesn't recognize it,
Anyway, does starting Pd after running that show the dialog? If not, can you nuke the permissions file, reboot, and try again? As this is the first and only report we've gotten about this, I imagine it may just be something specific to your setup and, hopefully, not something that happens to everyone.
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Ricky Graham <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com mailto:rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > Yields: > Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > Successfully reset Microphone approval status for org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > > > tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd > Yields: > tccutil: No such bundle identifier "org.puredata.pd": The operation couldn’t be completed. (OSStatus error -10814.) > > Ricky > > >> On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com mailto:danomatika@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The preferences files don't appear to be used to store which apps asked for permissions, so that shouldn't be needed. Judging from this, you can nuke the existing permissions state via: >> >> rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/com.apple.TCC >> >> then rebooting: >> >> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-m... https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/384317/how-do-i-reset-camera-and-microphone-permission-on-macos-mojave >> >> Before you do that, can you try running both of the following? >> >> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd.pd-gui >> >> tccutil reset Microphone org.puredata.pd >> >> For me, running either of these results in >> >> tccutil: No such bundle identifier >> >> which is strange as *one* of those should be associated with the permissions state. Maybe this changed on macOS 10.15? I guess I should update one of these days, but I've been waiting for 11.0 and probably a new computer... >
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