Hi Aymeric,
I would like goto10 to be at this meeting for sure, when do you propose to change it to? One or two hours or more?
For everyone else who would like to attend, is having the meeting a few hours later possible? It is certainly possible for me.
Say +2 hrs?
b.
aym3ric wrote:
yo ben
just came across this thread, i think some of use would like to intend to this meeting but won't be possible that early. is it possible to postpone ?
B. Bogart said:
Hi Koray!
Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all that is out there for materials.
Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what the attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to reschedule.
.b.
Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses. I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
Today I will update the site with the other students' works from previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki, so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be online on Tuesday.
best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" <ben@ekran.org mailto:ben@ekran.org> Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400@ekran.org mailto:437E5800.6090400@ekran.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of
the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
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tuesday 22nd 7pm GMT perfect we'll be there more or less sober. thanks for postponing the meeting!
a.
B. Bogart said:
Hi Aymeric,
I would like goto10 to be at this meeting for sure, when do you propose to change it to? One or two hours or more?
For everyone else who would like to attend, is having the meeting a few hours later possible? It is certainly possible for me.
Say +2 hrs?
b.
aym3ric wrote:
yo ben
just came across this thread, i think some of use would like to intend to this meeting but won't be possible that early. is it possible to postpone ?
B. Bogart said:
Hi Koray!
Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all that is out there for materials.
Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what the attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to reschedule.
.b.
Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses. I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
Today I will update the site with the other students' works from previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki, so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be online on Tuesday.
best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" <ben@ekran.org mailto:ben@ekran.org> Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400@ekran.org mailto:437E5800.6090400@ekran.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of
the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
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Hey all,
So can everyone make the revised date/time of:
Tuesday November 22nd @ 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
.b.
aym3ric wrote:
tuesday 22nd 7pm GMT perfect we'll be there more or less sober. thanks for postponing the meeting!
a.
B. Bogart said:
Hi Aymeric,
I would like goto10 to be at this meeting for sure, when do you propose to change it to? One or two hours or more?
For everyone else who would like to attend, is having the meeting a few hours later possible? It is certainly possible for me.
Say +2 hrs?
b.
aym3ric wrote:
yo ben
just came across this thread, i think some of use would like to intend to this meeting but won't be possible that early. is it possible to postpone ?
B. Bogart said:
Hi Koray!
Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all that is out there for materials.
Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what the attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to reschedule.
.b.
Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses. I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
Today I will update the site with the other students' works from previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki, so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be online on Tuesday.
best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" <ben@ekran.org mailto:ben@ekran.org> Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400@ekran.org mailto:437E5800.6090400@ekran.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
- What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of
the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
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B. Bogart wrote:
Hey all,
So can everyone make the revised date/time of:
Tuesday November 22nd @ 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
16:00 Chilean Time
no entiendo. el tiempo chileno no es el mismo como PST?
explica por favor.
august wrote:
B. Bogart wrote:
Hey all,
So can everyone make the revised date/time of:
Tuesday November 22nd @ 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
16:00 Chilean Time
no entiendo. el tiempo chileno no es el mismo como PST?
explica por favor.
although we can see the pacific, in valparaiso, it's no pacific time there :
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ( check santiago )
well, was just to say i'll be reachable in chile quite soon.. and not to ignore those countries.
ciao, sevy
hola again,
btw, if you happen to be in Brussels this week, you can assist to PD performance streamed from Chile that will be received in "Espace Citoyen, Rue des Fabriques Fabrieksstraat 30, 1000 Brussels".. next friday, 25, a las 21:30...
http://www.constant.irisnet.be/~constant/notes/index.php/V/J9#21:30_elpicoro...
i'll be there on the spot for the technical support.
the whole festival "Jonctions #9" is also of interest :
http://www.constant.irisnet.be/~constant/notes/index.php/V/J9
i think i said all for now saludos, sevy
the world is a never-ending loop :
for (;;) { if ( peace ) { prepare war; } if ( war ) { make business; } if ( business < 1000000 ) { start war; } }
georges "the nerd" bush ______________________________________
Yves Degoyon wrote:
august wrote:
B. Bogart wrote:
Hey all,
So can everyone make the revised date/time of:
Tuesday November 22nd @ 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
16:00 Chilean Time
no entiendo. el tiempo chileno no es el mismo como PST?
explica por favor.
although we can see the pacific, in valparaiso, it's no pacific time there :
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ( check santiago )
well, was just to say i'll be reachable in chile quite soon.. and not to ignore those countries.
ciao, sevy
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That's fine by me.
.hc
On Nov 20, 2005, at 7:06 PM, aym3ric wrote:
tuesday 22nd 7pm GMT perfect we'll be there more or less sober. thanks for postponing the meeting!
a.
B. Bogart said:
Hi Aymeric,
I would like goto10 to be at this meeting for sure, when do you
propose to change it to? One or two hours or more?For everyone else who would like to attend, is having the meeting a
few hours later possible? It is certainly possible for me.Say +2 hrs?
b.
aym3ric wrote:
yo ben
just came across this thread, i think some of use would like to intend to this meeting but won't be possible that early. is it possible to postpone ?
B. Bogart said:
Hi Koray!
Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all
that is out there for materials.Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what
the attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to
reschedule..b.
Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences
about how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term
courses. I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and
I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises
and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/Today I will update the site with the other students' works from previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same
subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki,
so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be online on Tuesday.best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" <ben@ekran.org mailto:ben@ekran.org> Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400@ekran.org mailto:437E5800.6090400@ekran.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering
the max vs pd thread on this list.Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of
Pure-Data+.When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be
improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how
documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects
of the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the
Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
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