^There's the question. Every time I try slipping in a pt.rotate, pt.video, pt.*, Pd crashes. I am trying to set things up on my friend's computer for a show in a few weeks, and would love to have the niceties of some time-saving PixelTANGO abstractions.
Should I dig in and strip it down, or is there a more elegant way to fix this problem?
~Kyle
There is a bug in flext/[py] that causes these crash. Its been fixed
in the latest test release:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
.hc
On May 20, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
^There's the question. Every time I try slipping in a pt.rotate, pt.video, pt.*, Pd crashes. I am trying to set things up on my friend's computer for a show in a few weeks, and would love to have the niceties of some time-saving PixelTANGO abstractions.
Should I dig in and strip it down, or is there a more elegant way to fix this problem?
~Kyle
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It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war
on terrorism."
- retired U.S. Army general,
William Odom
I tried installing Pd-0.39.2-extended-test3.exe on WinXP and it went OK, but the libraries did not load by default! Anyone else experience this?
~Kyle
On 5/21/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
There is a bug in flext/[py] that causes these crash. Its been fixed in the latest test release:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
.hc
On May 20, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
^There's the question. Every time I try slipping in a pt.rotate, pt.video, pt.*, Pd crashes. I am trying to set things up on my friend's computer for a show in a few weeks, and would love to have the niceties of some time-saving PixelTANGO abstractions.
Should I dig in and strip it down, or is there a more elegant way to fix this problem?
~Kyle
--
http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com
(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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Disregard that, I forgot to RTFM. Double clicking the registry file added the library. However, PixelTANGO still crashed the machine!
~Kyle
On 5/21/06, Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
I tried installing Pd-0.39.2-extended-test3.exe on WinXP and it went OK, but the libraries did not load by default! Anyone else experience this?
~Kyle
On 5/21/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
There is a bug in flext/[py] that causes these crash. Its been fixed in the latest test release:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
.hc
On May 20, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
^There's the question. Every time I try slipping in a pt.rotate, pt.video, pt.*, Pd crashes. I am trying to set things up on my friend's computer for a show in a few weeks, and would love to have the niceties of some time-saving PixelTANGO abstractions.
Should I dig in and strip it down, or is there a more elegant way to fix this problem?
~Kyle
--
http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com
(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
Hey, if you are on Windows and have problems with test-3, I'd recommend test-2. GEM was completely broken for me with test-3, but running test-2 I'm getting GREAT performance, no crashes at all (as long as I don't try loading AVI's) and very tight, quick response. Anyway, I have a big gig doing visuals in Detroit, at a Neil Landstrumm/Adam Beyer show, and I'll be using PD/GEM as my main program. This is my first big show, but PD/GEM have made it easy to make some really sweet generative glitchy visuals.
Now, if only we can get a GEM that plays AVI properly on windows, I have a feeling it will never happen so I currently use vvvv for that instead... So I have to switch programs now and then during the show. But PD has my best stuff, I'm trying to spread
Strangely, even though my background is as a composer, I've had much better luck doing visuals with PD than making music with it. I just may not have the patience to build from scratch, things like Reaktor and Plogue Bidule tend to be easier for me to deal with; except PD works very well for me, to send data over OSC to control other modular programs.
~David
On 5/21/06, Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
Disregard that, I forgot to RTFM. Double clicking the registry file added the library. However, PixelTANGO still crashed the machine!
~Kyle
On 5/21/06, Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
I tried installing Pd-0.39.2-extended-test3.exe on WinXP and it went OK, but the libraries did not load by default! Anyone else experience this?
~Kyle
On 5/21/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
There is a bug in flext/[py] that causes these crash. Its been fixed in the latest test release:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
.hc
On May 20, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
^There's the question. Every time I try slipping in a pt.rotate, pt.video, pt.*, Pd crashes. I am trying to set things up on my friend's computer for a show in a few weeks, and would love to have the niceties of some time-saving PixelTANGO abstractions.
Should I dig in and strip it down, or is there a more elegant way to fix this problem?
~Kyle
--
http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com
(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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--
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(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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On 5/22/06, David Powers cyborgk@gmail.com wrote:
Now, if only we can get a GEM that plays AVI properly on windows, I have a feeling it will never happen
I wouldn't say never - but getting decent video performance and stability out of Quicktime and DirectShow on Windows for what we want to do is not the easiest task.
Now, if only we can get a GEM that plays AVI properly on windows, I
have a feeling it will never happenI wouldn't say never - but getting decent video performance and
stability out of Quicktime and DirectShow on Windows for what we
want to do is not the easiest task.
Hi. I've been working on a patch runing on a windows machine and I've
had lots of dificulties with codecs.
My experience is that if you load several movies onto one pix_film
object pd crashes sooner or later, be it quicktime or avi.
The only codec I've been able to use is the indeo (IR32) that
homer.avi uses
With all the rest pix_film writes something like "new movie might
crash ... survived" (until it does crash).
Has this been discussed before? Do you know if there's another codec
that works?
thanks
. g
Has this been discussed before? Do you know if there's another codec that works?
none?. even the homer video displayed weird for me... i guess most people who are serious about windows and graphical dataflow patching have swayed towards VVVV, since it fully embraces all that is DirectX/DirectShow/etc..
I'm running GEM on Windows. In my latest patch, I'm loading up 12 quicktimes all at once to different GEM heads, and turning all but the one I want off, and sending all 12 into the same [pd some_pix_fx] -> [pix_texture] -> [rectangle]. This may take more memory, but to tell the truth, the performance has been quite stable. But, I use loadbangs to load all of these up at startup, before I create the gemwin.
However, the problem is that I prefer to do quick edits on video clips with Virtual Dub, and that's obviously not possible. I don't know of any free or open source video editor for quicktime, that is really fast (and linear). I will end up using Adobe Premier, but it's totally overkill and not so efficient for the simple edits I want to do. When time is short, quick interfaces become incredibly important.
Anyway, my advise is, if using GEM on winsows avoid AVI like the plague... They ALL crash it, regardless of codec, in my experience. Or, follow the advice of "c" and learn vvvv, that's what I'm going to use to play glitched up AVI's in my upcoming show. Though having to learn two quite different modular programs, when you're just starting to get comfortable with one, is somewhat of a pain!
~David
On 5/24/06, c _@whats-your.name wrote:
Has this been discussed before? Do you know if there's another codec
that works?
none?. even the homer video displayed weird for me... i guess most people who are serious about windows and graphical dataflow patching have swayed towards VVVV, since it fully embraces all that is DirectX/DirectShow/etc..
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You could convert your .avis to another format, like .mov.
.hc
On May 24, 2006, at 8:36 PM, David Powers wrote:
I'm running GEM on Windows. In my latest patch, I'm loading up 12
quicktimes all at once to different GEM heads, and turning all but
the one I want off, and sending all 12 into the same [pd
some_pix_fx] -> [pix_texture] -> [rectangle]. This may take more
memory, but to tell the truth, the performance has been quite
stable. But, I use loadbangs to load all of these up at startup,
before I create the gemwin.However, the problem is that I prefer to do quick edits on video
clips with Virtual Dub, and that's obviously not possible. I don't
know of any free or open source video editor for quicktime, that is
really fast (and linear). I will end up using Adobe Premier, but
it's totally overkill and not so efficient for the simple edits I
want to do. When time is short, quick interfaces become incredibly
important.Anyway, my advise is, if using GEM on winsows avoid AVI like the
plague... They ALL crash it, regardless of codec, in my experience.
Or, follow the advice of "c" and learn vvvv, that's what I'm going
to use to play glitched up AVI's in my upcoming show. Though having
to learn two quite different modular programs, when you're just
starting to get comfortable with one, is somewhat of a pain!~David
On 5/24/06, c _@whats-your.name wrote:
Has this been discussed before? Do you know if there's another
codec that works?
none?. even the homer video displayed weird for me... i guess most
people who are serious about windows and graphical dataflow
patching have swayed towards VVVV, since it fully embraces all that
is DirectX/DirectShow/etc..
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Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli
Quicktime works great. Follow the link (http://mrtof.danslchamp.org/pd/synchedvideo.zip) for v33.readvf: it loads multiple movies (it creates a pix_film for every movie loaded... you do not need to load the same movie twice).
Tom
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Now, if only we can get a GEM that plays AVI properly on windows, I have a feeling it will never happen
I wouldn't say never - but getting decent video performance and stability out of Quicktime and DirectShow on Windows for what we want to do is not the easiest task.
Hi. I've been working on a patch runing on a windows machine and I've had lots of dificulties with codecs. My experience is that if you load several movies onto one pix_film object pd crashes sooner or later, be it quicktime or avi. The only codec I've been able to use is the indeo (IR32) that homer.avi uses With all the rest pix_film writes something like "new movie might crash ... survived" (until it does crash).
Has this been discussed before? Do you know if there's another codec that works?
thanks
. g
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