Actually, if pd open did take an optional argument, this would be easy to handle ala:
- the Audio menu items could send the open command with the extra arg so selecting the audio test paths is only opened once
- the helpbrowser detects double clicks and calls pd open, I think it would make sense to always open things single from the browser, you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there
All other calls to pd open should omit the extra argument and behave as before. I'd see this as a simple improvement for new users.
On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:55 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:32:48 -0700 From: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> To: katja <katjavetter@gmail.com mailto:katjavetter@gmail.com> Cc: Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] multiple instances of a patch forbidden in 0.49, why? Message-ID: <20180923203248.GD30397@ucsd.edu mailto:20180923203248.GD30397@ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
actually, it's probably not a serious problem that one can multiply open help files (if one really wants to), so probably it's not worth fixing this.
On the other hand, a naive user on a Mac would expect that clicking on a file in the "finder", if Pd already has the file open, would show the user the open file instead of opening another copy.
Supposing the "open" menu called "pd open" with the third nonzero argument, but if "pd open" acted as it does now so that one could programmatically open multiple copies of a patch, would this permit you to do what you're planning? (I think that this would be patch-level back compatible).
cheers Miller
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On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote:
you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there
I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. While on MacOS this will open in the same Pd instance, Linux will open another Pd to open the file with (Windows too IIRC).
m.
On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote:
On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote:
you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there
I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. While on MacOS this will open in the same Pd instance, Linux will open another Pd to open the file with (Windows too IIRC).
at least with the Debian packages, Pd will open the patch in an already running instance (if possible). (other distros might have the file-associations wrong; if you install Pd from source, there are not file-associations at all).
on Windows, there is a bug-fix coming with Pd-0.49, so that patches opened via the file-associations will open in an already running instance as well.
hsdtm IOhannes
On 24.09.2018 14:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote:
On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote:
you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there
I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. While on MacOS this will open in the same Pd instance, Linux will open another Pd to open the file with (Windows too IIRC).
at least with the Debian packages, Pd will open the patch in an already running instance (if possible). (other distros might have the file-associations wrong; if you install Pd from source, there are not file-associations at all).
Do you mean the file associations in the File Manager? If not, is it possible for the user to make these file associations? For the File Manager, in Dolphin "pd" is the application associated with the file which is the one in ~/.local/share/applications (currently Pd-0.49-0test5) which I have installed from source.
on Windows, there is a bug-fix coming with Pd-0.49, so that patches opened via the file-associations will open in an already running instance as well.
very good news.
On 2018-09-24 14:55, Max wrote:
On 24.09.2018 14:23, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2018-09-24 14:11, Max wrote:
On 24.09.2018 13:01, Dan Wilcox wrote:
you can always double click the directory itself and launch things via the file explorer if you want multiples from there
I think there is no consistent cross-platform behavior in this regard. While on MacOS this will open in the same Pd instance, Linux will open another Pd to open the file with (Windows too IIRC).
at least with the Debian packages, Pd will open the patch in an already running instance (if possible). (other distros might have the file-associations wrong; if you install Pd from source, there are not file-associations at all).
Do you mean the file associations in the File Manager?
i mean the file associations via mime-types, which are (normally) also picked up by your File Manager.
If not, is it possible for the user to make these file associations? For the File Manager, in Dolphin "pd" is the application associated with the file
the file-association should be for "pd-gui" rather than "pd" (the Pd-GUI has all the logic to prevent double starts; the Pd-core does not, and imho should not)
hgsdmt IOhannes
On 24.09.2018 15:45, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
If not, is it possible for the user to make these file associations? For the File Manager, in Dolphin "pd" is the application associated with the file
the file-association should be for "pd-gui" rather than "pd" (the Pd-GUI has all the logic to prevent double starts; the Pd-core does not, and imho should not)
Mind blown.
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