Yes....that's it. The patch loads fine now. I guess I should add the "-font-face Monaco" flag to the startup settings. Can you explain why this makes it work? Thanks very much for your help. Nick
On 02/28/2011 01:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi Nick, I see. Thanks for the info.
Could you try to start Pd from the terminal with: pdextended -font-face Monaco
It seems hard to find the problem. I saw you wrote on the list, did anybody replied? If not, I'll write too. I'm sorry but I'm a bit clueless at the moment, but I use to run the patch on several Ubuntu machines and never encountered this problem before.
Best, Marco
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com> wrote:
Hi Marco, I uninstalled compiz in synaptic but the crash is still happening. Yes, I can bang the other bangs and I see the help patches no problem. The graphic card is G86 nvidia GEforce 8400m G The only time I had a crash like this was when trying to use Thomas Grills flext based external Xsample. Otherwise PD behaves in a very stable manner. The font issue may well be the cause, but that is just a sort of hunch of mine. Many thanks for your interest and support in this problem Nick On 02/23/2011 01:01 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:Ok, if you have Compiz enabled, could you try to disable it and run again CNTRL from the terminal? Are you able to bang the other [bangs] in the splash screen and see the related popup subpatches? Which graphic card do you have? It seems something related to the font Pd look for, but can't find useful info about it. I'll keep on looking. Can you normally use Pd with no problem? Thanks, Best, Marco On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com <mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com>> wrote: Hi Marco....I tried the -noloadbang flag, but the crash actually occurs when I click the big bang button on the splash screen to open the main C[]NTR[]L patch. Any ideas much appreciated. Nick On 02/22/2011 06:07 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:Hi Nick, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. I run the software on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx with no problem. Indeed, the log you posted seems to be something X11 related, even though at the moment we cannot exclude it's CNTRL doing something that your system does not like. Could you try to run CNTRL in the terminal with the flag -noloadbang? Perhaps there are some initialization parameters which conflict with some settings of your system. Thanks, Best wishes, Marco On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com <mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com>> wrote: btw, running pd extended in a terminal I get the following error when it crashes out.... X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Serial number of failed request: 22074 Current serial number in output stream: 22075 recv: Connection reset by peer (104) best Nick. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: c:ntr:l Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:49:50 +0000 From: Nick Burge <tectp@telefonica.net> <mailto:tectp@telefonica.net> To: devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> Hello Marco, congratulations on your interesting and beautifully documented project Xth sense. I'm interested in trying to get C:NTR:l running on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop system, but trying to start the patch crashes PD and causes it to close immediately. Do you know of anyone running it on a comparable system? best regards, Nick Burge. -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
Hi Nick, good to know, but this is just a workaround. That command line changes the font-face which Pd will use.
Looking for the xfont error log you have posted I found this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2360.html
A similar error has been solved --dpkg purge(ing) and apt-get install(ing) two font packages. If I'm not wrong the Pd default font is ttf-bitstream-vera, I guess there could be something wrong in your font configuration.
Although, I don't understand why it causes your Pd to crash only with cntrl and flext. Anyone?
Best, Marco
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Nick Burge nburge@virginmedia.com wrote:
Yes....that's it. The patch loads fine now. I guess I should add the "-font-face Monaco" flag to the startup settings. Can you explain why this makes it work? Thanks very much for your help. Nick
On 02/28/2011 01:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi Nick, I see. Thanks for the info.
Could you try to start Pd from the terminal with: pdextended -font-face Monaco
It seems hard to find the problem. I saw you wrote on the list, did anybody replied? If not, I'll write too. I'm sorry but I'm a bit clueless at the moment, but I use to run the patch on several Ubuntu machines and never encountered this problem before.
Best, Marco
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Nick Burge nburge@virginmedia.comwrote:
Hi Marco, I uninstalled compiz in synaptic but the crash is still happening. Yes, I can bang the other bangs and I see the help patches no problem. The graphic card is G86 nvidia GEforce 8400m G The only time I had a crash like this was when trying to use Thomas Grills flext based external Xsample. Otherwise PD behaves in a very stable manner. The font issue may well be the cause, but that is just a sort of hunch of mine. Many thanks for your interest and support in this problem Nick
On 02/23/2011 01:01 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ok, if you have Compiz enabled, could you try to disable it and run again CNTRL from the terminal?
Are you able to bang the other [bangs] in the splash screen and see the related popup subpatches?
Which graphic card do you have?
It seems something related to the font Pd look for, but can't find useful info about it. I'll keep on looking.
Can you normally use Pd with no problem?
Thanks,
Best, Marco
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Nick Burge nburge@virginmedia.comwrote:
Hi Marco....I tried the -noloadbang flag, but the crash actually occurs when I click the big bang button on the splash screen to open the main C[]NTR[]L patch. Any ideas much appreciated. Nick
On 02/22/2011 06:07 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi Nick, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.
I run the software on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx with no problem. Indeed, the log you posted seems to be something X11 related, even though at the moment we cannot exclude it's CNTRL doing something that your system does not like.
Could you try to run CNTRL in the terminal with the flag -noloadbang? Perhaps there are some initialization parameters which conflict with some settings of your system.
Thanks, Best wishes, Marco
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Nick Burge nburge@virginmedia.comwrote:
btw, running pd extended in a terminal I get the following error when it crashes out....
X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Serial number of failed request: 22074 Current serial number in output stream: 22075 recv: Connection reset by peer (104)
best Nick.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: c:ntr:l Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:49:50 +0000 From: Nick Burge tectp@telefonica.nettectp@telefonica.net To: devel@thesaddj.com
Hello Marco, congratulations on your interesting and beautifully documented project Xth sense. I'm interested in trying to get C:NTR:l running on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop system, but trying to start the patch crashes PD and causes it to close immediately. Do you know of anyone running it on a comparable system? best regards, Nick Burge.
-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
Remains a mystery for the time being....I installed the ttf-bitstream-vera font via synaptic which was not actually installed before, but without the -font-face Monaco flag it still crashed... Meanwhile your patch/program is really great. Fantastic realtime audio processes, but problematical when using video ... as soon as I open a gem window audio starts to break up. To stop audio from breaking up on my laptop I've had to hack the C[]NTR[]L patch into seperate audio and video patches, and running 2 simultaneous instances of pd one for audio and one for video, sending the note bangs via OSC/udp from one instance to the other. Not sure why one should have to do this, but it works perfectly like that. Maybe you know an easier way?? Thank you for your help and sharing this with the pd community. Nick
On 02/28/2011 05:51 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi Nick, good to know, but this is just a workaround. That command line changes the font-face which Pd will use.
Looking for the xfont error log you have posted I found this thread: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-05/2360.html
A similar error has been solved --dpkg purge(ing) and apt-get install(ing) two font packages. If I'm not wrong the Pd default font is ttf-bitstream-vera, I guess there could be something wrong in your font configuration.
Although, I don't understand why it causes your Pd to crash only with cntrl and flext. Anyone?
Best, Marco
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com> wrote:
Yes....that's it. The patch loads fine now. I guess I should add the "-font-face Monaco" flag to the startup settings. Can you explain why this makes it work? Thanks very much for your help. Nick On 02/28/2011 01:28 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:Hi Nick, I see. Thanks for the info. Could you try to start Pd from the terminal with: pdextended -font-face Monaco It seems hard to find the problem. I saw you wrote on the list, did anybody replied? If not, I'll write too. I'm sorry but I'm a bit clueless at the moment, but I use to run the patch on several Ubuntu machines and never encountered this problem before. Best, Marco On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com <mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com>> wrote: Hi Marco, I uninstalled compiz in synaptic but the crash is still happening. Yes, I can bang the other bangs and I see the help patches no problem. The graphic card is G86 nvidia GEforce 8400m G The only time I had a crash like this was when trying to use Thomas Grills flext based external Xsample. Otherwise PD behaves in a very stable manner. The font issue may well be the cause, but that is just a sort of hunch of mine. Many thanks for your interest and support in this problem Nick On 02/23/2011 01:01 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:Ok, if you have Compiz enabled, could you try to disable it and run again CNTRL from the terminal? Are you able to bang the other [bangs] in the splash screen and see the related popup subpatches? Which graphic card do you have? It seems something related to the font Pd look for, but can't find useful info about it. I'll keep on looking. Can you normally use Pd with no problem? Thanks, Best, Marco On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com <mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com>> wrote: Hi Marco....I tried the -noloadbang flag, but the crash actually occurs when I click the big bang button on the splash screen to open the main C[]NTR[]L patch. Any ideas much appreciated. Nick On 02/22/2011 06:07 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:Hi Nick, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. I run the software on Ubuntu Lucid Lynx with no problem. Indeed, the log you posted seems to be something X11 related, even though at the moment we cannot exclude it's CNTRL doing something that your system does not like. Could you try to run CNTRL in the terminal with the flag -noloadbang? Perhaps there are some initialization parameters which conflict with some settings of your system. Thanks, Best wishes, Marco On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Nick Burge <nburge@virginmedia.com <mailto:nburge@virginmedia.com>> wrote: btw, running pd extended in a terminal I get the following error when it crashes out.... X Error of failed request: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 45 (X_OpenFont) Serial number of failed request: 22074 Current serial number in output stream: 22075 recv: Connection reset by peer (104) best Nick. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: c:ntr:l Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:49:50 +0000 From: Nick Burge <tectp@telefonica.net> <mailto:tectp@telefonica.net> To: devel@thesaddj.com <mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> Hello Marco, congratulations on your interesting and beautifully documented project Xth sense. I'm interested in trying to get C:NTR:l running on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop system, but trying to start the patch crashes PD and causes it to close immediately. Do you know of anyone running it on a comparable system? best regards, Nick Burge. -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>-- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com <http://marcodonnarumma.com/> Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com <http://www.thesaddj.com/> | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net <http://cntrl.sourceforge.net/> | http://www.flxer.net <http://www.flxer.net/> Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/>
Hi Nick,
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Nick Burge nburge@virginmedia.com wrote:
Remains a mystery for the time being....I installed the ttf-bitstream-vera font via synaptic which was not actually installed before, but without the -font-face Monaco flag it still crashed...
I see, I can't imagine why is that. It seems related to Xfont package and its configuration. Anyways, I'm happy you can use the software.
Meanwhile your patch/program is really great. Fantastic realtime audio
processes, but problematical when using video ... as soon as I open a gem window audio starts to break up. To stop audio from breaking up on my laptop I've had to hack the C[]NTR[]L patch into seperate audio and video patches, and running 2 simultaneous instances of pd one for audio and one for video, sending the note bangs via OSC/udp from one instance to the other. Not sure why one should have to do this, but it works perfectly like that. Maybe you know an easier way??
Thanks Nick. Ok, yes that's an issue which should be solved using a real time kernel. At least I don't have this problem here with -rt flag and rt kernel. But it probably depends on the machine capabilities. What you described is usually good practice when working with real time audio+video processing in Pd. I believe there should be several threads about this topic here on the list.
However, I have to admit the C[]NTR[]L application featuring audio-to-video OSC communication was in the pipeline for long time, but then the project forked into a more interesting (at least for me) framework, which I'm developing now.
Best wishes, and have fun!
Marco
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