I had some questions about the next days:

• the berlin one starts at "noon". what is noon exactly here, or, how does

it translates into a definite hour?

• how late is "late" as well? (for some people, 4am isn't late)
• I don't have time now to be thinking of a new super concept to make

people understand digital audio in 5 minutes. so I would be glad to revise
material that other people don't want to touch.

• when are the pauses to have a beer at treptower park if it's still as

sunny as today?

I had some questions about the "philosophical" point of this. I was just
having a look at the manuals:

• the manuals are a bit loose, it's a bit of nice ideas put together

(which is normal for the beginning). maybe they could be organized around
themes later?

• they're also made almost as if they would be the only resources online.

how about putting at least a reference to the pd original tutorials? (I
can go hunt for that) or maybe even to other tutorials spread around (that
might be a bit more tricky, in case this material isn't that solid)

• what's the main goal of this manual? just include as much stuff as

possible, or is there an "editorial line", or a finished form to aim at?

• in general, I guess the dataflow (or control) tutorials could be more

developed - comparing with the audio ones, they're behind. shouldn't they
also come first, sequentially?

• there was some comments before about incorporating pd-ext into the

manuals. that means that pd-ext is then the "official" version? (which is
fine for me, makes more sense for newcommers) in that case, the most
stable libraries should be included in the manuals as well (making a
reference that they're not available in pd-van) - at least the materials
everyone knows they're going to stay there for a while.

also: Frank, how about a section about lists and how they're useful on a
day-to-day basis, in case you're on action this weekend?

To all of those planning on participating in the Pd FLOSS Manuals Book
Sprint this weekend, either remotely or in NYC or Berlin, I've placed
the list of topics on the FLOSS Manuals site here:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/ChitChat

If you haven't yet, please make yourself a login here:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/login/TWiki/WebHome?origurl=/bin/view/PureDat...
And please list your name and what you'd like to work on in the "Who
will be there and what will they do?" section!

General info on the sprint can be found here, in case you want to know
more but don't want to register on FLOSS Manuals:

http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-03/069107.html

best! Derek

Derek,

I was poking around the site, and it looks great. I was noticing that the link on the ( http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/ChitChat ) page has a broken link for ( http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata ), it would appear there is a space at the end of the link, and as such, does not work...

Mike

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Derek Holzer derek@umatic.nl wrote:

To all of those planning on participating in the Pd FLOSS Manuals Book Sprint this weekend, either remotely or in NYC or Berlin, I've placed the list of topics on the FLOSS Manuals site here:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/PureData/ChitChat

If you haven't yet, please make yourself a login here:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/login/TWiki/WebHome?origurl=/bin/view/PureDat...

And please list your name and what you'd like to work on in the "Who will be there and what will they do?" section!

General info on the sprint can be found here, in case you want to know more but don't want to register on FLOSS Manuals:

http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-03/069107.html

best! Derek -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 33: "Cluster analysis"

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