PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine.
Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details" shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.
Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:
set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
Hi Hans
Is the Jack OSX cpu issue likely to be fixed for this release? All in
all its felling really tight this version!
cheers
On 27 May 2009, at 05:11, Matt Barber wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details" shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I
changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:
set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
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I know little about Jack, and I think this bug is also in vanilla, so
its pretty unlikely to be fixed this time around. Try nagging
IOhannes :)
.hc
On May 27, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Si Mills wrote:
Hi Hans
Is the Jack OSX cpu issue likely to be fixed for this release? All
in all its felling really tight this version!cheers
On 27 May 2009, at 05:11, Matt Barber wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora
machine.Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details"
shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I
changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values
in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked
before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
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don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of
Environmentalism", by Curtis White
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I know little about Jack, and I think this bug is also in vanilla, so its pretty unlikely to be fixed this time around. Try nagging IOhannes :)
bit i really don't have any idea about jack-on-osx...
anyhow, a good start would be to find out where the actual processing power is spent by using a profiler...
fgamsdr IOhannes
On May 28, 2009, at 3:08 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I know little about Jack, and I think this bug is also in vanilla,
so its pretty unlikely to be fixed this time around. Try nagging
IOhannes :)bit i really don't have any idea about jack-on-osx...
anyhow, a good start would be to find out where the actual
processing power is spent by using a profiler...
It seems that when the audio gets turned off, then Pd is still
executing Jack calls. After launching Pd, turning off the DSP, then
off, then this is taking 80% of the time that Pd is running:
- 81.4%, __bzero, libSystem.B.dylib
| + 80.9%, process, pd | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackClient::Execute(), Jackmp | | | + 80.9%, Jack::JackPosixThread::ThreadHandler(void*), Jackmp | | | | + 80.9%, _pthread_start, libSystem.B.dylib | | | | | 80.9%, thread_start, libSystem.B.dylib
More info in the bug report:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2791638&gr...
.hc
"[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are
deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from
scarcity." -John Gilmore
Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so that's going to have to wait for the next release.
.hc
On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, "Matt Barber" brbrofsvl@gmail.com wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine.
Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details" shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.
Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:
set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
what about the weired select-text-in-the-about-window-and-close-to- crash-pd bug? it's in the bug tracker since a while and still present.
m.
Am 27.05.2009 um 23:37 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so that's going to have to wait for the next release.
.hc
On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, "Matt Barber" brbrofsvl@gmail.com wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine.
Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details"
shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I
changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values
in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked
before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
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That bug report was closed, so I didn't see it. I can't reproduce
this with the Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc* on Mac OS X/Intel 10.5.6 then
10.5.7. If you can, please post the info and steps how to do it here:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1994404&gr...
.hc
On May 27, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Max wrote:
what about the weired select-text-in-the-about-window-and-close-to- crash-pd bug? it's in the bug tracker since a while and still present.
m.
Am 27.05.2009 um 23:37 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated
so that's going to have to wait for the next release..hc
On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, "Matt Barber" brbrofsvl@gmail.com wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message
boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in
gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine.
Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details"
shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I
changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original
values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno
hcengar@gmail.com wrote:Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked
before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything
in the gnome settings.Cheers,
Hector
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Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is
related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra
I agree.
Thanks for the help, and I'll post back if I can track down a solution.
Matt
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
Ok, I fixed another 8.5 issue, this one with the Help Browser. I am afraid that the issue of the iemgui's label fonts looks complicated so that's going to have to wait for the next release.
.hc
On Wed, 27 May 2009 00:11 -0400, "Matt Barber" brbrofsvl@gmail.com wrote:
PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me).
This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot.
I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine.
Thanks a bunch for your patience on this,
Matt
Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...
.hc
On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:
ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on "Details" shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3.
Cheers,
Hector
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this:
set sizelist "5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25"
For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings.
Cheers,
Hector
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