moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com
[moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan
Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems it's with [moocow/mknob].
Andras
2010/11/24 Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@vt.edu http://mc/compose?to=ico@vt.edu>
When installing onan arch other than i386 please make sure to do:
make distclean aclocal autoconf ./configure (with appropriate flags) make
Etc.
HTH
Ico
András Murányi <muranyia@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=muranyia@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@vt.eduhttp://mc/compose?to=ico@vt.edu>
wrote:
OK, latest snapshot 20101124 has been just made available in the usual place with additional improvements including:
*all vanilla and iemgui objects are now "accelerated" in terms of their redrawing and moving, resulting in a dramatic improvement in UI responsiveness (for the devs, the new model uses tagging of widgets and move command, rather than apparently a much more cpu expensive coords call)
*sarlo's magic highlighter now works on all iem objects as well as gop objects
*more cosmetic bug fixes
http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56
As always, feedback is most appreciated!
Best wishes,
Ico
<personal thoughts, never mind> First i wish to say i had my doubts but now i'm happy to see an iteration
of
pd-extended in the wild. One may say there is some waste of time with a
fork
like this and of course there is, but it also proves pd-extended to be 'adult' in a way and adults may have children, and children may seem to reinvent the wheel sometimes but that's all right and that's the way they can find their new, hopefully better ways. And meanwhile, hopefully, many thing will go upstream and it will be a big happy family :o) I'm particularly interested in better GUIs operating a well separated core,
and
happy to see Hans & Miller & al are advancing in this direction! </personal thoughts, never mind>
I'm on AMD64 and has run into this with 'make':
cd ../obj; cc -Wl,-export-dynamic -lasound -lrt -ljack -o ../bin/pd d_ctl.o d_array.o d_delay.o d_filter.o d_math.o d_osc.o d_soundfile.o g_canvas.o g_graph.o g_text.o g_rtext.o g_array.o g_template.o g_io.o g_scalar.o g_traversal.o g_guiconnect.o g_readwrite.o g_editor.o g_all_guis.o g_bang.o g_hdial.o g_hslider.o g_mycanvas.o g_numbox.o g_toggle.o g_vdial.o g_vslider.o g_vumeter.o g_magicglass.o m_pd.o
m_class.o
m_obj.o m_atom.o m_memory.o m_binbuf.o m_conf.o m_glob.o m_sched.o
s_main.o
s_inter.o s_file.o s_print.o s_loader.o s_path.o s_entry.o s_audio.o s_midi.o d_ugen.o d_arithmetic.o d_dac.o d_misc.o d_fft.o d_global.o d_resample.o x_arithmetic.o x_connective.o x_interface.o x_midi.o x_misc.o x_time.o x_acoustics.o x_net.o x_qlist.o x_gui.o x_list.o import.o s_midi_oss.o s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o s_midi_alsa.o s_audio_jack.o d_fft_mayer.o d_fftroutine.o -ldl -lm -lpthread -lasound collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault] /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `d_ctl.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_array.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_delay.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input filed_filter.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_math.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `d_osc.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_canvas.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_graph.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `g_text.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_rtext.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_array.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `g_template.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_io.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_scalar.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `g_traversal.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_guiconnect.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_readwrite.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_editor.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
g_vdial.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input fileg_magicglass.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
m_pd.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `m_obj.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `m_atom.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
m_memory.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
m_conf.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `m_glob.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `s_main.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
s_print.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
s_loader.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `s_path.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
s_entry.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_ugen.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_arithmetic.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_dac.o' is incompatiblewith
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `d_misc.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `d_fft.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_global.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_resample.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
x_connective.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
x_interface.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `x_midi.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `x_time.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `x_acoustics.o' is
incompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `x_net.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `import.o' is incompatible
with
i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `s_audio_oss.o' is
incompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
s_audio_alsa.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
s_audio_alsamm.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input files_audio_jack.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file
d_fft_mayer.o' isincompatible
with i386:x86-64 output /usr/bin/ld: i386 architecture of input file `d_fftroutine.o' is incompatible with i386:x86-64 output make: *** [../bin/pd] Error 1
Andras
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On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 02:53 +0100, András Murányi wrote:
moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems it's with [moocow/mknob].
Confirmed. Looking into it...
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:46 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 02:53 +0100, András Murányi wrote:
moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems it's with [moocow/mknob].
Confirmed. Looking into it...
All right, I said I would go to sleep but the curiosity got the best of me, so I looked at this one and found a super-simple solution.
Namely, it appears mknob uses g_all_guis.h and g_canvas.h, both of which have changed as a result of accelerated drawing of iemgui objects. A simple recompile of mknob (and likely other objects that may rely upon the same framework) apparently fixed the problem.
That said, this like other non-standard externals does not utilize either highlight or accelerated motion (and thus falls back nicely on the old way of moving using coords).
HTH
BTW, Hans, is there a reason why pd-extended cannot find moonlib's help files? I tried "importing," as well as invoking objects with moonlib/ prefix. How would one go about fixing this other than extending the default.pdsettings file?
Gotta love it when your bug-hunt TODO list is finally empty (even if only for a couple of hours :-).
Ico
2010/11/25 Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:46 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 02:53 +0100, András Murányi wrote:
moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems it's with [moocow/mknob].
Confirmed. Looking into it...
All right, I said I would go to sleep but the curiosity got the best of me, so I looked at this one and found a super-simple solution.
Namely, it appears mknob uses g_all_guis.h and g_canvas.h, both of which have changed as a result of accelerated drawing of iemgui objects. A simple recompile of mknob (and likely other objects that may rely upon the same framework) apparently fixed the problem.
Alrite, my knowledge is just not enough to teach moonlib (which i have put into /extra) where the pd headers are. What shall i modify in its makefile?
Andras
Namely, it appears mknob uses g_all_guis.h and g_canvas.h, both of which have changed as a result of accelerated drawing of iemgui objects. A simple recompile of mknob (and likely other objects that may rely upon the same framework) apparently fixed the problem.
Alrite, my knowledge is just not enough to teach moonlib (which i have put into /extra) where the pd headers are. What shall i modify in its makefile?
CFLAGS = -DPD -I"../../src" -Wall -W -g
...and it works! I have lots of 'consistency check failed: glist_findrtext' when running, plus sometimes 'tcl/tk error: unknown encoding "yahoo"' on the terminal. It seems somewhat faster than the father, but that could also be that i've compiled it for my CPU with 'march='. Somehow MIDI works on startup while with the father it doesn't (i have to check 'MIDI settings' each time). Sometimes it gets temporarily frozen where the father doesn't, for example upon editing, saving, and then closing a simple subpatch (no GOP, no externals in it), and then it throws out all the output that was delayed during the freeze - this doesn't happen with the father (afaik you need to use -nosleep to make it behave like this?), and throws some 'error: .x123456: no such object's. The GUI is pretty.
Andras
Actually, just discovered 3 more minor but nonetheless buggy behaviors that caused extraneous pdtk_canvas_getscroll calls as well as console errors (thankfully these were not show-stoppers). Now pd with or without debugging should output no errors to the console (at least not using vanilla objects).
NB: for the 0.43 devs this has also resulted in a change to the pdtk_canvas_getscroll function requiring another alteration to the new scrolling algorithm patch-bundle I submitted to the Sourceforge a while ago.
Re-uploaded version now available.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Ico
On Nov 25, 2010, at 3:37 PM, András Murányi wrote:
2010/11/25 Ivica Ico Bukvic ico@vt.edu On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:46 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 02:53 +0100, András Murányi wrote:
moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems
it's
with [moocow/mknob].
Confirmed. Looking into it...
All right, I said I would go to sleep but the curiosity got the best
of me, so I looked at this one and found a super-simple solution.Namely, it appears mknob uses g_all_guis.h and g_canvas.h, both of
which have changed as a result of accelerated drawing of iemgui objects. A simple recompile of mknob (and likely other objects that may rely upon the same framework) apparently fixed the problem.Alrite, my knowledge is just not enough to teach moonlib (which i
have put into /extra) where the pd headers are. What shall i modify
in its makefile?Andras
The header install locations have changed in Pd 0.43, now all Pd
headers are installed into /usr/include/pd, so if an external uses
anything in addition to m_pd.h, then it'll need to include that
location in the include path.
.hc
"[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are
deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from
scarcity." -John Gilmore
On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:35 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 22:46 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 02:53 +0100, András Murányi wrote:
moonlib indeed!
2010/11/25 Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [moonlib/mknob]
-Jonathan Thanks, this worked. Now i'm having segfaults on patch load, it seems it's with [moocow/mknob].
Confirmed. Looking into it...
All right, I said I would go to sleep but the curiosity got the best
of me, so I looked at this one and found a super-simple solution.Namely, it appears mknob uses g_all_guis.h and g_canvas.h, both of
which have changed as a result of accelerated drawing of iemgui objects. A simple recompile of mknob (and likely other objects that may rely upon the same framework) apparently fixed the problem.That said, this like other non-standard externals does not utilize either highlight or accelerated motion (and thus falls back nicely on the old way of moving using coords).
HTH
BTW, Hans, is there a reason why pd-extended cannot find moonlib's
help files? I tried "importing," as well as invoking objects with moonlib/ prefix. How would one go about fixing this other than extending the default.pdsettings file?Gotta love it when your bug-hunt TODO list is finally empty (even if only for a couple of hours :-).
Ico
THe moonlib help patches work for me using Pd-extended 0.42.5 on Mac
OS X 10.5.8.
.hc
http://at.or.at/hans/
BTW, Hans, is there a reason why pd-extended cannot find moonlib's help files? I tried "importing," as well as invoking objects with moonlib/ prefix. How would one go about fixing this other than extending the default.pdsettings file?
Gotta love it when your bug-hunt TODO list is finally empty (even if only for a couple of hours :-).
Ico
THe moonlib help patches work for me using Pd-extended 0.42.5 on Mac OS X 10.5.8.
How would one go about troubleshooting this? Is this something that default.pdsettings overwrites or should I hunt for this in some meta-file instead?
Please advise.
On Nov 30, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
BTW, Hans, is there a reason why pd-extended cannot find moonlib's help files? I tried "importing," as well as invoking objects with
moonlib/ prefix. How would one go about fixing this other than extending the default.pdsettings file?Gotta love it when your bug-hunt TODO list is finally empty (even if only for a couple of hours :-).
Ico
THe moonlib help patches work for me using Pd-extended 0.42.5 on Mac OS X 10.5.8.
How would one go about troubleshooting this? Is this something that
default.pdsettings overwrites or should I hunt for this in some meta- file instead?Please advise.
You can start by turning on verbose mode and seeing which folder the
moonlib objects you're created are actually read from.
.hc
You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can
hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie
You can start by turning on verbose mode and seeing which folder the
moonlib objects you're created are actually read from.
This is what I get:
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob.pd and failed sorry, couldn't find help patch for "mknob.pd"
The help file is located in /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/moonlib/ but pd never looks in there. It seems like something is missing inside the search path somewhere. But where?
My guess is that you have another moonlib in your path. Check the
verbose dump of loading [mknob] to see where its actually loaded from.
.hc
On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
You can start by turning on verbose mode and seeing which folder the moonlib objects you're created are actually read from.
This is what I get:
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob-help.pd and
failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/help-mknob.pd and
failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob.pd and failed sorry, couldn't find help patch for "mknob.pd"The help file is located in /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/moonlib/ but
pd never looks in there. It seems like something is missing inside the search path somewhere. But where?
I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during
that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big
Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 12:55 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
My guess is that you have another moonlib in your path. Check the
verbose dump of loading [mknob] to see where its actually loaded from..hc
moonlib is located in /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib
Please note I am not having a problem opening external but *its help file* which is located in /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/moonlib/ folder and which is dubiously skipped by pd when it searches through that folder. Is pd searching through all 5.reference/ folders or only through some preexisting database of sub-folders? If latter, where is this located?
tried /home/ico/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/postlude/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/Abstractions/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/abstractions/footils/sssad/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/rjlib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/d/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.l_i386 and failed tried /home/ico/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/postlude/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/Abstractions/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/abstractions/footils/sssad/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/rjlib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /home/ico/L2Ork/PD/d/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.pd_linux and succeeded
On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
You can start by turning on verbose mode and seeing which folder the moonlib objects you're created are actually read from.
This is what I get:
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob-help.pd and
failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob-help.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/help-mknob.pd and
failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/help-mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/moonlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/share/pd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/postlude/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/zexy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/creb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/cxc/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/list-abs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mapping/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/markex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/memento/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/mjlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/motex/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/oscx/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pdogg/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pixeltango/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pmpd/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/rradical/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/sigpack/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/smlib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/toxy/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pan/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/freeverb/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/hcs/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/jmmmp/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ext13/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ggee/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flib/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/ekext/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/flatspace/mknob.pd and failed tried /home/ico/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/mknob.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mknob.pd and failed sorry, couldn't find help patch for "mknob.pd"The help file is located in /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/moonlib/ but
pd never looks in there. It seems like something is missing inside the search path somewhere. But where?
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Hi Ivica, Since you've been rooting around in the Pd source, I wanted to bring up an idea about canvas properties and get your opinion on it:
If you look at the coords for a particular canvas, the 7th argument currently controls GOP status.
0 = no GOP 1 = GOP 2 = GOP + hide args
But what if this argument were thought of as controlling canvas visibility in a more general way:
-2 = no menu, no scroll -1 = no menu 0 = normal 1 = GOP 2 = GOP + hide args
That way it's not necessary to use an abstraction to hide the menu, plus it can be set the way it should be set-- in the canvas properties menu.
-Jonathan