you can make one by covering two numboxes with Canvas. Like attached (range.pd), drag the grey areas.

Stef Leave Phil Stone skrev:

Hello,

Is there any message that changes the knob width on sliders? I don't see any in the help, but I'm hoping anyway.

If not, are there any externals that have this capability? I'm trying to make a control that sets a window (start, end) on a table, and a normal slider would be perfect if I could control the knob size.

Phil Stone pkstonemusic.com

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