Find last error opens the subpatch or abstraction containing that error...but how can i find where that subpatch lives inside the main patch?
On Mon, 2019-11-25 at 14:29 +0800, Matt Davey wrote:
Find last error opens the subpatch or abstraction containing that error...but how can i find where that subpatch lives inside the main patch?
The menu item 'Window' -> 'Parent Window' opens the parent of the current window. If you follow that route, you can climb all the way up to the top patch.
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
Roman
Thanks Roman! That's gonna make my life a whole lot easier :)
And yeah, a keyboard shortcut might be nice
On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
fdsamr IOhannes
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
+1
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. November 2019 um 12:15 Uhr Von: "IOhannes m zmölnig" zmoelnig@iem.at An: pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] find last error brings up subpatch or abstraction, but how to find parent?
On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
fdsamr IOhannes
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+1
Quoting Christof Ressi christof.ressi@gmx.at:
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
+1
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. November 2019 um 12:15 Uhr Von: "IOhannes m zmölnig" zmoelnig@iem.at An: pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] find last error brings up subpatch or
abstraction, but how to find parent?On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
fdsamr IOhannes
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- Philipp Schmalfuß philipp.schmalfuss@uni-weimar.de [2019-11-26 14:57]:
+1
Quoting Christof Ressi christof.ressi@gmx.at:
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
+1
-1 as it would mean another step for users to keep the behavior of multiple Pd installations on different computers identical such as copying over and syncing various changes to config files manually.
I would vote +1 for bottom posting though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
Le 26/11/2019 à 12:15, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
I personally use pd on lot's of different computer, including computers that are not mine. having user-configurable shortcut can be nice, but having default shortcut that works for 90% of users seem more important.
Cheers Cyrille
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On Wed, 2019-11-27 at 10:24 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
Le 26/11/2019 à 12:15, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
I personally use pd on lot's of different computer, including computers that are not mine. having user-configurable shortcut can be nice, but having default shortcut that works for 90% of users seem more important.
I tend to join Cyrilles's camp here. I value consistency across installations more than configurability. I believe a small subset of Pd power users would profit while a larger group of people would get confused more easily and find it harder to get help.
Roman
power users would profit while a larger group of people would get confused more easily and find it harder to get help.
Most non-trivial applications have configurable shortcuts and it doesn't seem to cause much troubles. Can you imagine a text editor, DAW or video editing software without configurable shortcuts? Regular users simply stick with the default shortcuts anyway.
I think Cyrille didn't really argue against user configurable shortcuts:
having user-configurable shortcut can be nice, but having default shortcut that works for 90% of users seem more important.
I think the takeaway is: have good default shortcuts + make them configurable
Christof
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2019 um 13:30 Uhr Von: "Roman Haefeli" reduzent@gmail.com An: pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] configurable short-cut: WAS Re: find last error brings up subpatch or abstraction, but how to find parent?
On Wed, 2019-11-27 at 10:24 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
Le 26/11/2019 à 12:15, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
On 11/25/19 9:00 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
Personally, I use this so often it would warrant its own keyboard shortcut.
i use this so seldomly, that i wouldn't have thought about adding a keyboard shortcut.
anyhow: i think the way forward is to make the shortcuts user-configurable, so everybody can map whatever they prefer to any menu-option.
I personally use pd on lot's of different computer, including computers that are not mine. having user-configurable shortcut can be nice, but having default shortcut that works for 90% of users seem more important.
I tend to join Cyrilles's camp here. I value consistency across installations more than configurability. I believe a small subset of Pd power users would profit while a larger group of people would get confused more easily and find it harder to get help.
Roman
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