anyway, I'm really extremely completely ignorant on the subject, but all I'm saying is that I can help and send the info to put up again somewhere. Palm should know better, and Paloma also wanted to do something nice. It seems we'll all be there now in weimar, so we'll talk, huh?

Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:03:52 +0200 From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pdcon.org off and spammed To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4E1AAE68.1070902@iem.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"

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On 2011-07-09 18:29, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

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On Sat, 9 Jul 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

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I was surfing for pd papers and found this http://pdcon.org/ for the conference in Brazil, but it's offline. There's a fancy, spammy pink page instead.

Same thing happened to the 2i?me congr?s in Montr?al, and I don't remember how I found the former IP address of pure-data.ca, but I did find it after about one hour of searching.

i always suggested to use DNS names which are owned by the "community" as "fallbacks", so the pdcon organizers don't have to pay forever.

e.g. "we" (technically the "iem", administered by "me", dedicated to the "pd community"), can offer any subdomain of "puredata.info". for the conventions, there have always been DNS entries of the form conventionXY.puredata.info (with XY being the year).

unfortunately it seems that mostly the offer is not understood/deemed unimportant/forgotten/impossible to implement with the technical skills available; which results in:

http://convention04.puredata.info/ (Graz) hosted at puredata.info, still working :-)

http://convention07.puredata.info/ (Montreal) is an alias for art-engine.ca, which still runs, but unfortunately ceased to do anything meaningful with requests for this side, so we only get an "intentionally left blank" page

http://convention09.puredata.info/ (Sao Paolo) is a redirection to pdcon.org (since i couldn't persuade anybody to setup a VirtualHost configuration on their webserver that would accept requests for this address); since pdcon.org is now expired and now offers nonsense, the convention09... url does the same.

http://convention11.puredata.info/ (Weimar) is a redirection to the uni-weimar server; i fear that it will face a similar fate than convention09 (that is the site will be turned off after a while; i think it's rather unlikely that we will see scantily dressed bodies on the uni-weimar website anytime soon)

http://convention??.puredata.info/ (who knows)

personally i find the puredata.info URL easier to remember (though longer to type) than most other URLs, but then i am involved a lot with puredata.info...

as for sustainability of the old websites, i _can_ offer hosting static exports of the websites once the events are done (and make them accessible under the above links)

anybody interested please understand, that this offer can only be made - for _static_ sites (self contained HTML-exports! absolutely no database backends! no PHP! everything running on Apache. only transient ssh access to the host until things are running)

• • for small sites (anything less than 100MB or so)

a preferred way (ressources permitting) would be to make a http://convention??.puredata.info a permanent virtual host on _your_ infrastructure)

fgmasdr IOhannes