hello, some time ago there was a request for separate pd lists for the developers & the users.. i'd like to renew it. maybe it would also make sense to have a very low-volume pd-announce list, too?
re, gert
Yes, I've asked for this some months ago, but now I'm convinced that it was not a very good idea. The traffic isn't too important, and as a newbie, I was happy to be helped by people like Miller, Guenter or Johannes. As an user, it was interesting to hear about advanced features and to feel the work in progress. I think that every pd "developer" is an experimented user, and every user could (and should, for his own freedom) become a "developer", and Pd needs this, because it's still in developement. Thank you to everybody here for the support, kindness and great free software.
nicolas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vger" gert@test.at To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: [PD] lists..
hello, some time ago there was a request for separate pd lists for the developers & the users.. i'd like to renew it. maybe it would also make sense to have a very low-volume pd-announce list, too?
re, gert
You take (took?) the words out of my mouth.
mik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Lhommet" nlhommet@netcourrier.com To: "pd-list" pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [PD] lists..
Yes, I've asked for this some months ago, but now I'm convinced that it
was
not a very good idea. The traffic isn't too important, and as a newbie, I was happy to be helped by people like Miller, Guenter or Johannes. As an user, it was interesting to hear about advanced features and to feel the work in progress. I think that every pd "developer" is an experimented user, and every user could
(and
should, for his own freedom) become a "developer", and Pd needs this, because it's still in developement. Thank you to everybody here for the support, kindness and great free software.
nicolas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vger" gert@test.at To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: [PD] lists..
hello, some time ago there was a request for separate pd lists for the
developers
& the users.. i'd like to renew it. maybe it would also make sense to
have
a very low-volume pd-announce list, too?
re, gert
pd-announce would be big comfort ...
|Yes, I've asked for this some months ago, but now I'm convinced that it was |not a very good idea. |The traffic isn't too important, and as a newbie, I was happy to be helped |by people like Miller, Guenter or Johannes. As an user, it was interesting |to hear about advanced features and to feel the work in progress. I think |that every pd "developer" is an experimented user, and every user could (and |should, for his own freedom) become a "developer", and Pd needs this, |because it's still in developement. |Thank you to everybody here for the support, kindness and great free |software. | |nicolas | | |----- Original Message ----- |From: "Vger" gert@test.at |To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at |Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:35 PM |Subject: [PD] lists.. | | |> hello, |> some time ago there was a request for separate pd lists for the developers |> & the users.. i'd like to renew it. maybe it would also make sense to have |> a very low-volume pd-announce list, too? |> |> re, |> gert |> |> | |
an announcement list is a good idea.
i could make it here. maybe somebody knows better (shorter) address for it? (like, lets say, pd-news or pd-now! ... hype_PD ? )
could this list be used for both announcements of new pd (&external) releases and annoucements of works/projects done by pd "users"? - occasionally somebody cold filter out the "best of" from that list and put it on the wiki so we get an archive.
i still am not convinced to split the list into one for each users and developers - nicolas has pointed it out right, imho.
my apologies for the list archive problem - and thank you jfm3 and juha for reporting and IOhannes for fixing it...
norbert
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, _-¯-_ wrote:
pd-announce would be big comfort ...
|Yes, I've asked for this some months ago, but now I'm convinced that it was |not a very good idea. |The traffic isn't too important, and as a newbie, I was happy to be helped |by people like Miller, Guenter or Johannes. As an user, it was interesting |to hear about advanced features and to feel the work in progress. I think |that every pd "developer" is an experimented user, and every user could (and |should, for his own freedom) become a "developer", and Pd needs this, |because it's still in developement. |Thank you to everybody here for the support, kindness and great free |software. | |nicolas | | |----- Original Message ----- |From: "Vger" gert@test.at |To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at |Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:35 PM |Subject: [PD] lists.. | | |> hello, |> some time ago there was a request for separate pd lists for the developers |> & the users.. i'd like to renew it. maybe it would also make sense to have |> a very low-volume pd-announce list, too? |> |> re, |> gert |> |> | |
-- X Þ ¥ . o r G
|an announcement list is a good idea. | |i could make it here. maybe somebody knows better |(shorter) address for it? |(like, lets say, pd-news or pd-now! ... hype_PD ? )
pd-a@iem
|could this list be used for both announcements |of new pd (&external) releases and annoucements of |works/projects done by pd "users"? - occasionally somebody
jup i'd say any form of announcement of pd-related software,project,website,performance,clothes-line,&c or respective new version
all questions go to pd-list ()
|cold filter out the "best of" from that list and |put it on the wiki so we get an archive. | |i still am not convinced to split the list into one |for each users and developers - nicolas has pointed it |out right, imho.
|my apologies for the list archive problem - and thank |you jfm3 and juha for reporting and IOhannes for fixing it...
-- X D v . o R 6
hi,
well, this is mho too, and more -- as a dedicated Pd user I really long to finally see a fundamental developer-level discussion leaking out into wider public (maybe gg's ``thoughts about iemlib'' make a good start? :-)...
... but at the same time there _is_ a need for a separate resource to somehow channel out reporting of non-crucial bugs etc. -- as I feel very strongly, I have overused this list in the past by posting such reports (probably causing more harm then good).
Krzysztof
Norbert Math wrote: ...
i still am not convinced to split the list into one for each users and developers - nicolas has pointed it out right, imho.
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