thanks hans, however not a lot of infomation came out of it.

i mostly tried the help patches from the .reference some do not give a problem: abs, acoustics, acoustics~,adc~, all_about,.. others: about.pd, abs~, all_about_arrays make Pd close without any message.

on the other hand acoustics~-help generates the message: < tclpd loader searching for pddp/dsp in path... nothing found. > idem for adc~-help, but no crash.

any more suggestions where/how to look?

ciao,rolf

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:

Nice! I like old machines, that is exactly the same CPU as the PdLab build servers :). They have less RAM tho ;). For debugging this, trying running pd in the cmd.exe shell. I would download the .zip package and unzip it somewhere. Then go to Start -> Run -> cmd.exe, and do:

cd path/pd/Pd-extended 0.43.1-extended/pd/bin pd.com -stderr

Then you should see all of the stuff that normally going to the Pd window going to the cmd.exe window.

.hc

On Dec 15, 2011, at 9:59 AM, rolf meesters wrote:

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hi,

i have a bunch of PIII, 733Mhz, 512Mb. Pd-0.42.5 runs smoothly on XP-pro. today i tried the latest nightly-build of P-0.43: it's not possible to open any patch, not even regular help-patches. Pd closes immediately; no warnings.

any suggestions on how to debug this?

rolf

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On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:33 AM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:

On 12/16/2011 05:44 PM, rolf meesters wrote:

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thanks hans, however not a lot of infomation came out of it.

i mostly tried the help patches from the .reference some do not give a problem: abs, acoustics, acoustics~,adc~, all_about,.. others: about.pd, abs~, all_about_arrays make Pd close without any message.

on the other hand acoustics~-help generates the message: < tclpd loader searching for pddp/dsp in path... nothing found. > idem for adc~-help, but no crash.

any more suggestions where/how to look?

i think, all externals in PdX are compiled with "-march=pentium4 -msse2 -mfpmath=sse" (for whatever reasons, Pd itself seems to not be compiled with p4/sse2 support), which will most likely produce code that is non-executable on your machine.

that the machine used for building is a P3, doesn't matter much, as it need not run the code...think of it as "cross compiling" for a newer architecture.

Ah yes, that is true. I figured that people using hardware that old would be using GNU/Linux. The Windows builds need Pentium4 minimum so they have SSE2.

.hc

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