OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP version 0.12.23 ( ydegoyon@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering! install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough:

svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended...

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

...

Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon....

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc

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base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

...

OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP        version 0.12.23 ( ydegoyon@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!        install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

...

I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough:

svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended...

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

...

Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker!  You can see some info about the included changes here:

http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease

Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon....

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc

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Thanks to all for your replies,

I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

Cheers,

Hector

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...

The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font then it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects, you'll see the default location is:

imlib_add_path_to_font_path("/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType");

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

...

OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

...

OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP       version 0.12.23 ( ydegoyon@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!       install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

...

I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to help someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have one to offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build farm are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good if you documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE

You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora

As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the whole thing from svn easily enough:

svn co

https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended...

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are not enough resources already but is there any chance of including OpenSuse in the building farms?

Cheers,

Hector

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote: > > Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on > it, > report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! >  You > can see some info about the included changes here: > > http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease > > Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon.... > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > .hc > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mistrust authority - promote decentralization.  - the hacker ethic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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OK, I got the font size fixed! If I change the foreach (at line 3944) in pd.tk from:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {

to:

foreach i {4 6 8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24} {

The text stays withing the object boxes. Exactly what is happening here I don't know. I have to analyze further to find out what's going on.

Cheers,

Hector

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

I am guessing that you could do some font sizing like is in pd-devel 0.41.  Check out pdtk_pd_startup in pd/src/u_main.tk.  There you can find the font measuring code.  Basically, it is mapping a font to Pd's font size numbers:

foreach i {8 9 10 12 14 16 18 24 30 36} {        set font [format {{%s} %d %s} $fontname_from_pd $i $fontweight_from_pd]        set pd_fontlist [linsert $pd_fontlist 100000 $font]        set width0 [font measure  $font x]        set height0 [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]        set fontlist [concat $fontlist $i [font measure  $font x]
                         [lindex [font metrics $font] 5]]    }

.hc

On May 15, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

Thanks to all for your replies,

I found that page about font size and Tcl/Tk 8.5 last night and started looking for some 8.4 packages for OpenSuse but couldn't find anything. OpenSuse 11.1 is the same as Fedora 10, they moved to 8.5 and there are no 8.4 packages (I remember Ubuntu being better for providing older versions). I wonder if we could look into pd's code to try to fix this with 8.5, any ideas where I could start looking?

Cheers,

Hector

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:

...

The text sticking out of the boxes is usually caused by Tcl/Tk 8.5:

http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-...

The pidip error is really just a warning.  I think you can set a font then it'll work.  Otherwise, check out the source files for the two text objects, you'll see the default location is:

imlib_add_path_to_font_path("/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType");

.hc

On May 14, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Hector Centeno wrote:

...

base64 problem solved. The package tcllib was needed. The only prblems left are with pdip not finding the fonts and with the text sticking out of the object boxes.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

...

OK, I tried setting the font size using the -font-size flag but even with small font somehow the size of the object box doesn't scale properly and the text still sticks out. Also I'm getting this error in the terminal:

can't find package base64

Thanks,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Hector Centeno hcengar@gmail.com wrote:

...

OK, it seems that I got it to build in OpenSuse 11.1 and it seems that it was much less effort than when I did it on OpenSuse 11. I only had to hack one of the make files (the one for tclpd). Now the problems I'm having are:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP      version 0.12.23 ( ydegoyon@free.fr ) error: [pdp_text] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/) error: [pdp_qtext] error: could not load default font, no text rendering!      install Bitstream Vera, it's free! (http://www.gnome.org/fonts/)

I have Bitstream Vera installed in /usr/share/fonts/truetype, do I have to copy them somewhere else?

Also the font in in the pd gui is too big so the text entered inside the objects doesn't fit inside the object boxes.

Once I have this things sorted out I will post in the pd wiki a short review about building pd in OpenSuse including a list of required packages.

Cheers,

Hector

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote: > > I don't know SUSE at all, so I won't set it up, but I am happy to > help > someone else get the builds running on a SUSE machine.  Do you have > one > to > offer?  It doesn't need to be fast, just working.  Most of the build > farm > are 733Mhz machines from '98, for example. :)  Also, it would be good > if you > documented the build process on the wiki so others can follow it: > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/FrontPage/createform?page=SUSE > > You can see the Debian or Fedora page for an example: > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Fedora > > As for a source tarball, I haven't made one... but you can get the > whole > thing from svn easily enough: > > svn co > > > https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/branches/pd-extended... > > .hc > > On May 14, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: > >> Is there a URL for downloading this version's source? I'm using >> OpenSuse 11.1 so I have to build it from scratch. By the way, does >> anyone know about an OpenSuse repository for PD? Probably there are >> not enough resources already but is there any chance of including >> OpenSuse in the building farms? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hector >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >> hans@at.or.at >> wrote: >>> >>> Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release!  Please hammer on >>> it, >>> report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug >>> tracker! >>>  You >>> can see some info about the included changes here: >>> >>> http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease >>> >>> Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon.... >>> >>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Mistrust authority - promote decentralization.  - the hacker ethic >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > All information should be free.  - the hacker ethic > > > > >

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Definitely improve the docs, its a wiki so please edit!

I have seen that on Vista. I have found that using ASIO4ALL improves
the situation. Good luck with the workshop! You should add it to the
workshop page:

http://puredata.info/docs/workshops

.hc

On May 15, 2009, at 1:35 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

I have two openSUSE 11.1 machines and would love to help, but they are both 64-bit and I have no time to work on this until after my first Puredata workshop this coming Sunday. I tried a 64-bit openSUSE build but it broke miserably and the instructions for 64-bit Linux builds need drastic cleanup. It's definitely something I want to do, assuming nobody else jumps in, but I need a working Pd-extended machine for Sunday. So I am going with Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope on an ancient 32-bit laptop.

I also have a 64-bit Windows Vista machine (it's dual-booted with openSUSE 11.1, actually) but when I loaded pd-extended on it and tried to run the test sine wave in the Media menu, instead of a steady tone I got a warbling tone that was unacceptable. If there's a fix for this, I'll test out the Windows version and possibly use it for the Sunday workshop.

P.S.: The workshop is at

http://dorkbotpdx.org/blog/breedx/pure_data_workshop_1_of_3_introduction_to_...

if you're near Portland, Oregon.

P.P.S.: I'll try the new Windows build tomorrow and see if the warble goes away. :)

-- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://www.linkedin.com/in/edborasky

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steamed.

There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

Nice effects, are the sounds affecting the visuals at all? I am
guessing you are triggering things with that white bit you are moving
around.

.hc

On May 15, 2009, at 4:00 AM, philippe boisnard wrote:

Hello

For those interested: my latest research in pure visual data.

http://databaz.org/xtrm-art/?p=202

Here: a combination of a shading (from framebuffer) + deformation
through the vertex (call file via GLSL glsl_verxtex and end with
glsl_fragment to process floats glsl_program). Everything is handled
in real time from a motion-tracking that both variables gives vertex

• triggers two types of sound (64 grid areas in the image): 64 osc~
• sounds of a grid of sample .

best regards

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...

The deb for Debian Lenny depends on liblame0 from Debian Multimedia (lame 3.97), but there is also a package libmp3lame0 (lame 3.98) that conflicts with liblame0. pd-extended 0.40.3-1 depends on libmp3lame0, that should be the preferred one.

Thanks for spotting that, I fixed it.

.hc

hi,

should this already be fixed in rc2?

liblame0 is missing when I try to install version 0.41-4extended-rc2
(compiled 08:11:33 May 15 2009)

but using following version: (0.41-4extended-20090507, compiled 12:10:09 May 7 2009) there's no missing package.

thanks, Martin

On May 17, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Martin Schied wrote:

...

...

The deb for Debian Lenny depends on liblame0 from Debian Multimedia (lame 3.97), but there is also a package libmp3lame0 (lame 3.98)
that conflicts with liblame0. pd-extended 0.40.3-1 depends on
libmp3lame0, that should be the preferred one.

Thanks for spotting that, I fixed it.

.hc

hi,

should this already be fixed in rc2?

liblame0 is missing when I try to install version 0.41-4extended- rc2 (compiled 08:11:33 May 15 2009)

but using following version: (0.41-4extended-20090507, compiled
12:10:09 May 7 2009) there's no missing package.

There isn't an rc2 release yet, but the nightly builds labeled rc2
should include this dependency now. Its installed on that build
machine:

root@ubuntu-intrepid-i386:~# apt-get install libmp3lame-dev Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done libmp3lame-dev is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

.hc

thanks, Martin

Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic.
It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on
terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

Ok, I think I fixed it in SVN, the nightly builds seem to have it
correct:

pd@debian-lenny-i386:2009-05-20 > dpkg -I Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3- debian-lenny-i386.deb new debian package, version 2.0. size 21761982 bytes: control archive= 1513 bytes. 2047 bytes, 29 lines control 517 bytes, 19 lines pd-extended.postinst #!/bin/sh 426 bytes, 15 lines pd-extended.postrm #!/bin/sh Source: pd-extended Version: 0.41.4~cvsrc3-1 Section: sound Priority: optional Maintainer: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at Homepage: http://puredata.info Package: pd-extended Architecture: i386 Depends: xterm | x-terminal-emulator, ttf-bitstream-vera, x- ttcidfont-conf, tcllib, freeglut3, libasound2 (>> 1.0.16),
libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libdv4, libfftw3-3, libflite1, libftgl2
(>= 2.1.3~rc5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1,
libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.16.0), libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libgsl0ldbl (>=
1.9), libimlib2, libjack0 (>= 0.109.2), libmagick++10, libmagick10,
libmp3lame0 (>= 3.98.2), libmpeg3-1 (>= 1.5.4), libogg0 (>= 1.0rc3),
libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4), libquicktime1 (>= 2:1.0.0+debian), libspeex1
(>= 1.2~beta3-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1), libtheora0 (>=
0.0.0.alpha7.dfsg-1.1), libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2), libvorbisenc2 (>=
1.1.2), libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.2), libx11-6, libxext6, libxv1,
libxxf86vm1, tcl8.4 (>= 8.4.16), tk8.4 (>= 8.4.16), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4)

On May 19, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Martin Schied wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

...

...

...

Thanks for spotting that, I fixed it.

sorry, if that's already done elsewhere, but both, rc2 (now
official) and also (inofficial) rc3 still have a dependency to
liblame0

here's what I get in my shell (sorry, german shell)

/tmp $ sudo dpkg -i Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc2-ubuntu-hardy-i386.deb

... pd-extended hängt ab von liblame0 (>= 3.97); aber: Paket liblame0 ist nicht installiert. ...

/tmp $ sudo apt-get install liblame0 ... Paket liblame0 ist nicht verfügbar, wird aber von einem anderen Paket referenziert. Das kann heißen, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es
veraltet ist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfügbar ist. Doch die folgenden Pakete ersetzen es: libmp3lame0 ....

/tmp $ sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0 Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig libmp3lame0 ist schon die neueste Version.

All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies,
one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better
language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John Donne