ehmm.. No, of course I didn't mean to just delete the IEM and credits colophons, that would be insane.
I only thought maybe we can make them look nicer, and prominent. Now it is not prominent at all at the bottom of the page, and so little.
Can we make new colophons or are there bigger, nicer ones?
Personally, I could leave those, but if we can make them better, why not..
M
i'm not sure how i should answer this:
- technically, it's easy to remove/replace the colophon
- politically, i'm sure the iem would prefer to be mentioned prominently
Hello folks,
I've been playing around with the CSS styles again. This time I implemented a similar style of the exhibition page to the homepage at puredata.info. I also decreased the global page width, and set it and its position in percentage, which makes it fluid across different browsers and platforms. Increased the font-size too.
I don't really like how Plone displays News and Recent Changes (table, odd and even). But this is something we could take care later on (if other ppl is bothered as me).
NOTE: I think better and bigger images would greatly enhance the look of the page.
See the attached screenshot. First is the style of the other time, the second is a similar style but without dotted background. I rather the dotted one.
This time I copied all the modification in css sheet, __which means that if ppl likes this stuff, I can change the real CSS and put it on-line__ I could do that between today and tomorrow.
let me know your thoughts, and if you have suggestion for the style. Didn't add the much requested Download button because it has to be done outside of the CSS.
cheers, Marco
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
ehmm.. No, of course I didn't mean to just delete the IEM and credits colophons, that would be insane.
I only thought maybe we can make them look nicer, and prominent. Now it is not prominent at all at the bottom of the page, and so little.
Can we make new colophons or are there bigger, nicer ones?
Personally, I could leave those, but if we can make them better, why not..
M
i'm not sure how i should answer this:
- technically, it's easy to remove/replace the colophon
- politically, i'm sure the iem would prefer to be mentioned prominently
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
NOTE: I think better and bigger images would greatly enhance the look of the page.
Most definitely.
In particular, wherever .pd patches are to be displayed as patch diagrams (to be read or studied rather than as mere eye candy) then the image should be large as possible and link to the full resolution original. I've no idea how the current zope/plone system behaves but some CMS I've seen cache low res versions so that clicking on "view image" just gives you a blury but larger version of the same. We must remember that whether of not the patches are also downloadable with Pure Data the images are informational content.
cheers, Andy
Both screenshots are a big improvement! I'd be happy with either, but I prefer the dots. Looking forward to seeing this go live!
.hc
On Mar 10, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hello folks,
I've been playing around with the CSS styles again. This time I implemented a similar style of the exhibition page to the homepage at puredata.info. I also decreased the global page width, and set it and its position in percentage, which makes it fluid across different browsers and platforms. Increased the font-size too.
I don't really like how Plone displays News and Recent Changes (table, odd and even). But this is something we could take care later on (if other ppl is bothered as me).
NOTE: I think better and bigger images would greatly enhance the look of the page.
See the attached screenshot. First is the style of the other time, the second is a similar style but without dotted background. I rather the dotted one.
This time I copied all the modification in css sheet, __which means that if ppl likes this stuff, I can change the real CSS and put it on-line__ I could do that between today and tomorrow.
let me know your thoughts, and if you have suggestion for the style. Didn't add the much requested Download button because it has to be done outside of the CSS.
cheers, Marco
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote: ehmm.. No, of course I didn't mean to just delete the IEM and credits colophons, that would be insane.
I only thought maybe we can make them look nicer, and prominent. Now it is not prominent at all at the bottom of the page, and so little.
Can we make new colophons or are there bigger, nicer ones?
Personally, I could leave those, but if we can make them better, why not..
M
i'm not sure how i should answer this:
- technically, it's easy to remove/replace the colophon
- politically, i'm sure the iem would prefer to be mentioned prominently
-- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK
Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net <pd.info-homepage.png><pd.info-nobackground.png>
There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 15:07, Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com wrote:
Hello folks,
I've been playing around with the CSS styles again. This time I implemented a similar style of the exhibition page to the homepage at puredata.info. I also decreased the global page width, and set it and its position in percentage, which makes it fluid across different browsers and platforms. Increased the font-size too.
I don't really like how Plone displays News and Recent Changes (table, odd and even). But this is something we could take care later on (if other ppl is bothered as me).
NOTE: I think better and bigger images would greatly enhance the look of the page.
See the attached screenshot. First is the style of the other time, the second is a similar style but without dotted background. I rather the dotted one.
This time I copied all the modification in css sheet, __which means that if ppl likes this stuff, I can change the real CSS and put it on-line__ I could do that between today and tomorrow.
let me know your thoughts, and if you have suggestion for the style. Didn't add the much requested Download button because it has to be done outside of the CSS.
cheers, Marco
Bravo Marco, a great improvement over the current state! Great dots :) Some minor comments/ideas:
the menu by adding an internal padding to the whole containing element, and at the same time, decreasing the padding/margin of the individual items? A few humble ideas about the main page:
know where else it could go
time space IMHO, because once you took a look at them you won't use that part of the website anymore
page to a menu item like "What is Pd?" and filling the page with more dynamic content? eventually, to fill with leads of News and Recent Changes items, which could even eliminate the need of those blocks (News is already on main page only, Recent Changes appear on some sub pages but not on each).
have a cover picture however. Eventually rotating cover pictures, possibly linked. Maybe a crazy idea, but wouldn't it make sense to have a carousel-like thing showing up items from the Exhibition on the main page?
DevelopmentWiki". Is this a temporary or very necessary state here?
András
Hello marco and all,
maybe that discussion should go on the pdweb list, no ? otherwise i don't know what it is made for... comments in the mail
Le 11/03/12 00:53, András Murányi a écrit :
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 15:07, Marco Donnarumma <devel@thesaddj.com mailto:devel@thesaddj.com> wrote:
Hello folks, I've been playing around with the CSS styles again. This time I implemented a similar style of the exhibition page to the homepage at puredata.info <http://puredata.info>. I also decreased the global page width, and set it and its position in percentage, which makes it fluid across different browsers and platforms. Increased the font-size too. I don't really like how Plone displays News and Recent Changes (table, odd and even). But this is something we could take care later on (if other ppl is bothered as me). NOTE: I think better and bigger images would greatly enhance the look of the page. See the attached screenshot. First is the style of the other time, the second is a similar style but without dotted background. I rather the dotted one. This time I copied all the modification in css sheet, __which means that if ppl likes this stuff, I can change the real CSS and put it on-line__ I could do that between today and tomorrow. let me know your thoughts, and if you have suggestion for the style. Didn't add the much requested Download button because it has to be done outside of the CSS. cheers, Marco
Bravo Marco, a great improvement over the current state! Great dots :) Some minor comments/ideas:
- could you post a screenshot of the footer?
is it possible as well to see a screenshot of some wiki page? or better to post the css code here as we can apply it locally and browse everywhere.
- what do you think about making News and Recent Changes more similar
to the menu by adding an internal padding to the whole containing element, and at the same time, decreasing the padding/margin of the individual items? A few humble ideas about the main page:
- the link to the Belorussian translation looks a bit orphaned, but I
don't know where else it could go
i agree, maybe it should move in the documentation section.
- seeing the same "old" screenshots on the opening page is a waste of
prime time space IMHO, because once you took a look at them you won't use that part of the website anymore
- what do you people think about moving the current content of the
main page to a menu item like "What is Pd?" and filling the page with more dynamic content? eventually, to fill with leads of News and Recent Changes items, which could even eliminate the need of those blocks (News is already on main page only, Recent Changes appear on some sub pages but not on each).
That is a very good point ( even if it's not css...), there is no point of having these blocks on every page. We can imagine a news listing and a recent changes listing inside the div content, and make a "about pd" section. ( like http://www.blender.org/ )
- if the main page ever gets populated with News et al, it would be
nice to have a cover picture however. Eventually rotating cover pictures, possibly linked. Maybe a crazy idea, but wouldn't it make sense to have a carousel-like thing showing up items from the Exhibition on the main page?
this is very easy with vimeo, but the problem of the" vimeo video group" is that it is not based on the same curation limit as for the exhibition section, people can add their own videos.
- all i currently see when clicking Community is "check out
DevelopmentWiki". Is this a temporary or very necessary state here?
when you click "development" you mean? This can be normally easily changed but if Iohannes has done that there must be a reason.
other comments:
something like max has done for vimeo: https://vimeo.com/groups/puredata it will "keep together" the whole page.
tanks for your work, best, n