Ey,
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
It's likely that I am duplicating someone's work here, but I'm pretty excited about the vslider scrollbar.
Here's a screenshot:
http://mccormick.cx/screenshots/Wednesday_Apr_26_2006_14:08.jpg
Yrs,
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
It's likely that I am duplicating someone's work here, but I'm pretty excited about the vslider scrollbar.
Yes, that's cool. rrad.nseq.pd in RRADical is a similar numberbox sequencer. It doesn't scroll, but you may like some other ideas used: The currently active number box is highlighted in a different color, while playing. It supports "shift-up/shift-down" operations, that shift the whole pattern by one step and it allows keyboard editing in a tracker style, where the querty/z-keyboard is read out like a piano keyboard and PageUp/PageDown switch octave layers.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:36:19AM +0200, pd-list-request@iem.at wrote:
From: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org Message-ID: 20060426064501.GA9186@fliwatut.scifi
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
It's likely that I am duplicating someone's work here, but I'm pretty excited about the vslider scrollbar.
Yes, that's cool. rrad.nseq.pd in RRADical is a similar numberbox sequencer. It doesn't scroll, but you may like some other ideas used:
Ah yes, I was certain you had done something like this before.
The main reasons I made a totally new one were a) to integrate with sssad/list serialisation, and my other GOP abstractions b) an unnatural love of the colour orange c) control freak.
The currently active number box is highlighted in a different color, while playing. It supports "shift-up/shift-down" operations, that shift the whole pattern by one step and it allows keyboard editing in a tracker style, where the querty/z-keyboard is read out like a piano keyboard and PageUp/PageDown switch octave layers.
Awesome, I'll have a look at yr patch and steal some more ideas. ;)
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
Hi Chris,
Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
Your screenshot looks nice. I'd like to test your patch, but I'm getting a bunch of errors starting s-seq.pd:
s-hex ... couldn't create save 1 0 3 1 (symbol->bang) connection failed list split 1 ... couldn't create sssad/sssad $1/sequence ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: pack_float: wrong type error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... (this error repeats some hundred times)
s-seq-help.pd doesn't work as well.
What do I need to start s-seq (pd version, externals, paths settings...)?
br, Piotr
Chris~
This is perfect for those 808 sounds that popped up recently!!! Where can I get the neat-o breakpoint envelope I saw in the screenshot? I'm sick of trying to grasp the points inside of arrays, and don't like third party solutions like yves' envgen (even though it is _really_ neat).
Oh, and kudos for the clean patches. I might be able to learn something for once! Keep up the good work!
~Kyle
On 4/26/06, Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
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Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Chris~
This is perfect for those 808 sounds that popped up recently!!! Where can I get the neat-o breakpoint envelope I saw in the screenshot? I'm sick of trying to grasp the points inside of arrays, and don't like third party solutions like yves' envgen
this is gunter's envgen...
saludos, sevy
Oops, sorry ggee!
~Kyle
On 4/26/06, Yves Degoyon ydegoyon@free.fr wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Chris~
This is perfect for those 808 sounds that popped up recently!!! Where can I get the neat-o breakpoint envelope I saw in the screenshot? I'm sick of trying to grasp the points inside of arrays, and don't like third party solutions like yves' envgen
this is gunter's envgen...
saludos, sevy
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(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:36:19AM +0200, pd-list-request@iem.at wrote:
From: "Kyle Klipowicz" kyleklip@gmail.com
This is perfect for those 808 sounds that popped up recently!!! Where
Yeah that obiwannabe disco bit was very cool!
can I get the neat-o breakpoint envelope I saw in the screenshot? I'm sick of trying to grasp the points inside of arrays, and don't like
Sure, it's in a previous post to the Pd list. It's called s-env and is in my CVS. See the end of this mail to the list:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037602.html
Best,
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
Hallo, Piotr Majdak hat gesagt: // Piotr Majdak wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
Your screenshot looks nice. I'd like to test your patch, but I'm getting a bunch of errors starting s-seq.pd:
s-hex ... couldn't create
This is an abstracion in Chris' "s-abstraction" collection, but it's not central to the sequencer.
save 1 0 3 1 (symbol->bang) connection failed list split 1 ... couldn't create
This is serious: [list split] is part of pd-0.39 (and backported in pd-extended 0.38). You need it.
sssad/sssad $1/sequence ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: pack_float: wrong type error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... (this error repeats some hundred times)
sssad is my "stupidsupersimplestatesavingsystem advanced", a copy is in Chris' CVS or at Sourceforge.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Hi Frank,
Frank Barknecht wrote:
s-hex ... couldn't create
This is an abstracion in Chris' "s-abstraction" collection, but it's not central to the sequencer.
OK. So I ignore this error.
save 1 0 3 1 (symbol->bang) connection failed list split 1 ... couldn't create
This is serious: [list split] is part of pd-0.39 (and backported in pd-extended 0.38). You need it
Yeah, thanks. This error disappears with 0.39-1.
sssad/sssad $1/sequence ... couldn't create
sssad is my "stupidsupersimplestatesavingsystem advanced", a copy is in Chris' CVS or at Sourceforge.
I looked for sssad in:
- http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/externals/ for directories
like cris, mccormick, sssad: nothing there
- http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/abstractions/ for directories
like cris, mccormick, sssad: nothing there
- google: "sourceforge pure-data sssad". Nothing found
So I give up seeking for sssad... But it seems like I don't need it for s-seq.
Scrolling the scrollbar in s-seq-help.pd I get the error:
error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float'
Changing the number of sequence items i get: error: pack_float: wrong type
Beside these errors s-seq-help.pd works fine. Thanks for the help,
Piotr
Hallo, Piotr Majdak hat gesagt: // Piotr Majdak wrote:
I looked for sssad in:
directories like cris, mccormick, sssad: nothing there
directories like cris, mccormick, sssad: nothing there
- google: "sourceforge pure-data sssad". Nothing found
It's supposed to be in "pure-data/abstractions/footils/sssad", however you know Sourceforge by now: CVS-Web-browsing and possibly anonymous CVS is totally broken, you should be able to get it with your developer account. It also was posted in the mailing list archive, just search for sssad. And finally it's in Chris' own CVS.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:36:19AM +0200, pd-list-request@iem.at wrote:
From: Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com
Chris McCormick wrote:
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
Your screenshot looks nice. I'd like to test your patch, but I'm getting a bunch of errors starting s-seq.pd:
s-hex ... couldn't create
Sorry, this is needed to show the index of the sequence in hex, and is in my CVS now:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-hex.pd
(You can get the whole thing as a tarball: http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/s-abstractions.tar.gz?view=tar
error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: pack_float: wrong type error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' ... (this error repeats some hundred times)
Whoops, these are all bugs. Thanks for trying to try it out.
Best,
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
Chris McCormick wrote:
Ey,
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
It's likely that I am duplicating someone's work here, but I'm pretty excited about the vslider scrollbar.
hey chris, really nice work! i'm sure by now there must be really a lot of graphical sequencers around for pd. i've seen (and tried to write) tracker style sequencers before, but i don't think your minimalistic approach really duplicates someone else's work. anyway i think for preventing duplicate work, it might be a good idea to create a collection of all reusable graphical (or nongraphical or algorithmic etc.) sequencers, so users can browse them on puredata.info. maybe even with screenshots, features comparison, mini-tutorial and such. good patches come up often, but get lost after a while. imo a central archive of sequencers (and maybe seperate ones for other groups of *reusable* patches that are often requested, i.e. (drum)synths, effects) on the pd community site would be useful for many users. any opinions on that?
charlie
I agree that you can never have enough sequencers. Sometimes I get into a rut with a certain style of sequencing, but switching gears "lubes up" my creative process.
I think that a collection is a good idea, since traversing cvs isn't always the most fun way to find things that might fit together in other ways. I know this is all in the greater scheme of pddp (at least I hope so!), so someday we might have a nice taxonomic nomenclature of the various tools made with Pd.
~Kyle
On 4/26/06, Christopher Charles schraubzwingenhalterung@web.de wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
Ey,
No datastrctures today, but this fellow can be used to sequence things:
http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq.pd http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/*checkout*/s-abstractions/s-seq-help.pd
It's likely that I am duplicating someone's work here, but I'm pretty excited about the vslider scrollbar.
hey chris, really nice work! i'm sure by now there must be really a lot of graphical sequencers around for pd. i've seen (and tried to write) tracker style sequencers before, but i don't think your minimalistic approach really duplicates someone else's work. anyway i think for preventing duplicate work, it might be a good idea to create a collection of all reusable graphical (or nongraphical or algorithmic etc.) sequencers, so users can browse them on puredata.info. maybe even with screenshots, features comparison, mini-tutorial and such. good patches come up often, but get lost after a while. imo a central archive of sequencers (and maybe seperate ones for other groups of *reusable* patches that are often requested, i.e. (drum)synths, effects) on the pd community site would be useful for many users. any opinions on that?
charlie
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 05:07:48PM +0200, Christopher Charles wrote:
someone else's work. anyway i think for preventing duplicate work, it might be a good idea to create a collection of all reusable graphical (or nongraphical or algorithmic etc.) sequencers, so users can browse them on puredata.info. maybe even with screenshots, features comparison, mini-tutorial and such. good patches come up often, but get lost after a while. imo a central archive of sequencers (and maybe seperate ones for other groups of *reusable* patches that are often requested, i.e. (drum)synths, effects) on the pd community site would be useful for many users. any opinions on that?
Well there is always:
http://www.pure-data.info/search?SearchableText=sequencer
but I guess that's not a complete list of all sequencer abstractions for Pd. I seem to remember that there is a website specifically for storing Pd patches and abstractions, but I don't really remember where this is. I suppose the difficult thing would be in getting everyone to submit their patches into whatever site was used to archive them. For myself for example, it's easiest to just provide a link to a tarball of my CVS.
Maybe what we need is a type of search engine for pd patches. One that can search the net for, and archive .pd files and index them according to their comments and the text used to link to them. It would be cool if google could be restricted by file type.
Best,
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
Yes! At the risk of getting flamed for trendiness, something akin to keywords or tags would be awesome for abstractions and patches. That way things could be cross-referenced in ways beyond typical cvs directory structures.
~Kyle
On 4/26/06, Chris McCormick chris@mccormick.cx wrote:
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 05:07:48PM +0200, Christopher Charles wrote:
someone else's work. anyway i think for preventing duplicate work, it might be a good idea to create a collection of all reusable graphical (or nongraphical or algorithmic etc.) sequencers, so users can browse them on puredata.info. maybe even with screenshots, features comparison, mini-tutorial and such. good patches come up often, but get lost after a while. imo a central archive of sequencers (and maybe seperate ones for other groups of *reusable* patches that are often requested, i.e. (drum)synths, effects) on the pd community site would be useful for many users. any opinions on that?
Well there is always:
http://www.pure-data.info/search?SearchableText=sequencer
but I guess that's not a complete list of all sequencer abstractions for Pd. I seem to remember that there is a website specifically for storing Pd patches and abstractions, but I don't really remember where this is. I suppose the difficult thing would be in getting everyone to submit their patches into whatever site was used to archive them. For myself for example, it's easiest to just provide a link to a tarball of my CVS.
Maybe what we need is a type of search engine for pd patches. One that can search the net for, and archive .pd files and index them according to their comments and the text used to link to them. It would be cool if google could be restricted by file type.
Best,
Chris.
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hi list.
i started coughing up a mini-wiki about sequencers written in pd (not much there yet):
http://www.puredata.info/Members/syntax_the_nerd/seqwiki/Sequencerwikihome
the entries contain a 128x128 thumbnail, info where to obtain it, a short feature overview, and sometimes dependency and reusability info. it's just a quick sketch of a wiki, no fancy subpages with tags and such. there are still several seqs i plan to put there: rrad.drumseq, just intonation, maybe another one of mine. frank barknecht once did a fancy data structures part-seq, i will have to look that up. shift8 did a seq and posted it to the list. once i stumbled upon a tracker-style seq by someone called number, but i dunno if he wants it distributed, and if it's still fresh. i remember seeing something called jass (just another step sequencer) by ck, but can't seem to find a link. then there's the category of sequencers not written in, but for pd, like yves' pianoroll external and carmen's shiny sequencer externals. if you have or know of any other sequencers, or want to add some of those mentioned above, feel free to log in to puredata.info and edit this wiki. any comments are welcome, too.
christopher charles
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:37:51PM +0200, Christopher Charles wrote:
hi list.
i started coughing up a mini-wiki about sequencers written in pd (not much there yet):
http://www.puredata.info/Members/syntax_the_nerd/seqwiki/Sequencerwikihome and posted it to the list. once i stumbled upon a tracker-style seq by
Hi,
This was really cool to read, thanks.
Chris.
chris@mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx
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