I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
In my limited experience and opinion:
Pd _by itself_ does not lead to a lot of job opportunities. However, when used as a tool in combination with other platforms to create products/outcomes, it can be a very efficient way to create software that has a live audio component (particularly due to the existence of libpd). And examples of work are what is going to benefit your resume more than an individual skill (which most people will not be familiar with).
For me, I was a freelance mobile developer for a few years. I benefitted from Pd as a skill, as I was working on audio-oriented mobile apps. While for some jobs I wrote native code for audio (in Objective-C or Java), in others I used Pd to make the audio engines. It was of particular benefit, since I could write the patch once, and then use it for both Android and iOS (although I still had to write a native wrapper for each platform).
With the increased use of libpd as an embeddable audio engine for apps and games, there may be increased demand. But to be hire-able, you'll want to know the text-based languages that will be used as a wrapper for that application, and be able to write that part of the software as well.
Your milage may vary.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Andrea andrea.txt@tiscali.it wrote:
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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Hi,
I agree with Daniel. PD can help as any other programming language or technology knowledge. I have worked on several projects through knowledge of PD. Now, I'm working in a scientific project wheres PD is one of the main tools of my job.
2016-03-13 23:26 GMT+01:00 Daniel Iglesia daniel.iglesia@gmail.com:
In my limited experience and opinion:
Pd _by itself_ does not lead to a lot of job opportunities. However, when used as a tool in combination with other platforms to create products/outcomes, it can be a very efficient way to create software that has a live audio component (particularly due to the existence of libpd). And examples of work are what is going to benefit your resume more than an individual skill (which most people will not be familiar with).
For me, I was a freelance mobile developer for a few years. I benefitted from Pd as a skill, as I was working on audio-oriented mobile apps. While for some jobs I wrote native code for audio (in Objective-C or Java), in others I used Pd to make the audio engines. It was of particular benefit, since I could write the patch once, and then use it for both Android and iOS (although I still had to write a native wrapper for each platform).
With the increased use of libpd as an embeddable audio engine for apps and games, there may be increased demand. But to be hire-able, you'll want to know the text-based languages that will be used as a wrapper for that application, and be able to write that part of the software as well.
Your milage may vary.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Andrea andrea.txt@tiscali.it wrote:
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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Hi Andrea,
In my case, PD found me a job as PD teacher... :-p "Did I earn a lot of money with this job ?" is an other question... :o)
Cheers
1°ve °1ivier
Le 13/03/2016 16:05, Andrea a écrit :
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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No. Pd will not find you a job. Because 'Pd is limited' (TM).
:)
On 13/03/2016 16:05, Andrea wrote:
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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Pd can definitely help you land a job, but probably not in the way you think.
By itself, the "brand recognition" you get from Pd is marginal at best. The same is true for Max/MSP or any other piece of software, commercial or otherwise. For this reason, I would encourage you to list ways in which Pd has changed your thinking, rather than trumpeting that you know how to use the specific program on your resume.
Generally speaking, you should not endeavor to sell yourself based on knowledge of one specific program or language. What you should sell yourself on are the thought processes that Pd encourages.
Employers don't care that you know how to create a [loadbang] object or patch specific wires every which way in Pd. Employers care that you can think through difficult problems and come up with novel solutions that are not implicitly tied to a single programming language or program. Languages and programs can become obsolete. Mastery of concepts never does, because you adapt and grow just as new languages and programs do.
As someone who administers a fair amount of job interviews for various engineering positions, I am often not thrilled when a person focuses on one specific language or program. I am most definitely thrilled by someone who has learned a useful concept and can apply it across multiple pieces of software, by virtue of having mastered the concept.
Good luck!
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Andrea andrea.txt@tiscali.it wrote:
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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As someone who administers a fair amount of job interviews for various engineering positions, I am often not thrilled when a person focuses on one specific language or program. I am most definitely thrilled by someone who has learned a useful concept and can apply it across multiple pieces of software, by virtue of having mastered the concept.
I see your point wrt fundamental patterns.
But if I were in HR and were thrilled by someone displaying an apparent mastery of, say, concurrency or PKI across languages, I'd pay them double what they're asking to teach me how they exploited my brain. (Plus some techniques to guard against future attacks.) -Jonathan
On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:56 AM, day five day5ive@gmail.com wrote:
Pd can definitely help you land a job, but probably not in the way you think. By itself, the "brand recognition" you get from Pd is marginal at best. The same is true for Max/MSP or any other piece of software, commercial or otherwise. For this reason, I would encourage you to list ways in which Pd has changed your thinking, rather than trumpeting that you know how to use the specific program on your resume. Generally speaking, you should not endeavor to sell yourself based on knowledge of one specific program or language. What you should sell yourself on are the thought processes that Pd encourages. Employers don't care that you know how to create a [loadbang] object or patch specific wires every which way in Pd. Employers care that you can think through difficult problems and come up with novel solutions that are not implicitly tied to a single programming language or program. Languages and programs can become obsolete. Mastery of concepts never does, because you adapt and grow just as new languages and programs do. As someone who administers a fair amount of job interviews for various engineering positions, I am often not thrilled when a person focuses on one specific language or program. I am most definitely thrilled by someone who has learned a useful concept and can apply it across multiple pieces of software, by virtue of having mastered the concept. Good luck! On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Andrea andrea.txt@tiscali.it wrote:
I'm learning PD for fun and personal interest, but I was wondering if it's good résumé material as well.
Did any of you, or someone you know, find jobs based on PD skills?
Thanks in advance for your experiences.
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