I started the project in 2005 when I met an incredible architectural acoustic in a concrete cylinder sized of 15 meter high to 10 meter large. I started to sing inside with an incredible reverberation of low sounds. The entrance of this cylinder (used to keep wine) was too small for audience to come inside, so I imagined to keep in real time the sound and the images (video) outside the cylinder, far away through Internet, in an appropriate cube-public-place with 6 video screens and 3D sound projection. I found a team of 9 people to release this opera project, but it was located near Toulouse (south of France) and in this part there is no grants for contemporary art creation. Today TEST-AIMANT is in waiting to be released.
The virtual clones orchestra, in my music works, stays as an obsession: there is several exemple of, done and music in project: like in 2002 "Jeux & Interdits" (Forbidden Games) where" I cloned my 9-tone electric guitar in 4 independent clones. listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html in 2003 "ti.Me Has No Age" where I cloned my archisonic lamp (http://centrebombe.org/lamps.html)in an orchestra of 161 clones you can listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html My next project is also about virtual orchestra of clones "Unisolable & Unduplicable, the recipe of Freedom" http://centrebombe.org/2007.residency.proposal(the Lamplayer.vs.the.Machines).pdf
The schematic of VOX CLONA (in attachment) gives you a precise purpose of what I would like to generate: one live voice (mine) generating an independant choir of 13 voices with its independent contrepoint projected in 3D sound space. I should perhaps translated in English what I wrote in French? Thanks for your interest mathius shadow-sky
--- Luigi Rensinghoff luigi.rensinghoff@freenet.de wrote:
Am 15.03.2007 um 14:21 schrieb the center of the bomb:
That sound really interesting, i have been doing some multichannel
stuff with vbap......You want to tell me more ??
you have an IM ??
Luigi
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The schematic of VOX CLONA (in attachment) gives you a precise purpose of what I would like to generate: one live voice (mine) generating an independant choir of 13 voices with its independent contrepoint projected in 3D sound space.
What's your concept for the counterpoint like? A canon is pretty easy to realize as a form for "cloned" voices. Do the other voices need to have some transformation applied to make independent melodies?
The conterpoint is generated by the superposition of cloned voices on different degree of its own scale and by the rhythm generator (with continuous unregular delays). Each voice is independent and there is no a global form to shape the clone choir.
Scalisator each clone takes a position on its own scale degree (each clone has its own scale made with Scala as .scl file) - by the way how could I include .scl files to pd? - to create unheard chords. Each clone change its pitch by slow glissando. The duration of the fixed pitch and the glissando is controled by the rhythm generator. In this case the delays-rhythms-generator should be before the pitch bend: the glissandi generator. Thanks to ask, I will think about it mathius
http://centrebombe.org/test-aimant.vox-clona.schematic.html
--- Charles Henry czhenry@gmail.com wrote:
The schematic of VOX CLONA (in attachment) gives you a precise purpose of what I would like to generate: one live voice (mine) generating an independant choir of 13 voices with its
independent
contrepoint projected in 3D sound space.
What's your concept for the counterpoint like? A canon is pretty easy to realize as a form for "cloned" voices. Do the other voices need to have some transformation applied to make independent melodies?
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(each clone has its own scale made with Scala as .scl file) - by the way how could I include .scl files to pd?
If you search the pd-list archive[1] for "scala", one solution is found as the first hits.
[1] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/
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I think everything you need to implement your vision as given in the diagram is available in Pd and it would make a perfect choice for this project.
Most of the components such as spacialisation, mixing, panning and delay treatments are already solved and available from other practicioners if you ask nicely.
The use of concrete bunkers for reverberation is very interesting. Is this a new take on "musique concrete" ? :)
best, Andy
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) the center of the bomb centrebombe@yahoo.com wrote:
I started the project in 2005 when I met an incredible architectural acoustic in a concrete cylinder sized of 15 meter high to 10 meter large. I started to sing inside with an incredible reverberation of low sounds. The entrance of this cylinder (used to keep wine) was too small for audience to come inside, so I imagined to keep in real time the sound and the images (video) outside the cylinder, far away through Internet, in an appropriate cube-public-place with 6 video screens and 3D sound projection. I found a team of 9 people to release this opera project, but it was located near Toulouse (south of France) and in this part there is no grants for contemporary art creation. Today TEST-AIMANT is in waiting to be released.
The virtual clones orchestra, in my music works, stays as an obsession: there is several exemple of, done and music in project: like in 2002 "Jeux & Interdits" (Forbidden Games) where" I cloned my 9-tone electric guitar in 4 independent clones. listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html in 2003 "ti.Me Has No Age" where I cloned my archisonic lamp (http://centrebombe.org/lamps.html)in an orchestra of 161 clones you can listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html My next project is also about virtual orchestra of clones "Unisolable & Unduplicable, the recipe of Freedom" http://centrebombe.org/2007.residency.proposal(the Lamplayer.vs.the.Machines).pdf
The schematic of VOX CLONA (in attachment) gives you a precise purpose of what I would like to generate: one live voice (mine) generating an independant choir of 13 voices with its independent contrepoint projected in 3D sound space. I should perhaps translated in English what I wrote in French? Thanks for your interest mathius shadow-sky
--- Luigi Rensinghoff luigi.rensinghoff@freenet.de wrote:
Am 15.03.2007 um 14:21 schrieb the center of the bomb:
That sound really interesting, i have been doing some multichannel
stuff with vbap......You want to tell me more ??
you have an IM ??
Luigi
the center of the bomb
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Most of the components such as spacialisation, mixing, panning and delay treatments are already solved and available from other practicioners if you ask nicely.
I am asking nicely to other Pure Data practitioners: where can I find these already solved and available patches of: 3D spatialization, continuous pitch shifting (to make several glissando at the same time), delays for complex rhythms generator, to release the TEST-AIMANT VOX CLONA diagram? http://centrebombe.org/test-aimant.vox-clona.schematic.html Chears mathius
--- padawan12 padawan12@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
I think everything you need to implement your vision as given in the diagram is available in Pd and it would make a perfect choice for this project.
Most of the components such as spacialisation, mixing, panning and delay treatments are already solved and available from other practicioners if you ask nicely.
The use of concrete bunkers for reverberation is very interesting. Is this a new take on "musique concrete" ? :)
best, Andy
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:10:40 -0700 (PDT) the center of the bomb centrebombe@yahoo.com wrote:
I started the project in 2005 when I met an incredible architectural acoustic in a concrete cylinder sized of 15 meter high to 10 meter large. I started to sing inside with an incredible reverberation of low sounds. The entrance of this cylinder (used to keep wine) was too small
for
audience to come inside, so I imagined to keep in real time the sound and the images (video) outside the cylinder, far away through Internet, in an appropriate cube-public-place with 6
video
screens and 3D sound projection. I found a team of 9 people to release this opera project, but
it
was located near Toulouse (south of France) and in this part there is no grants for
contemporary
art creation. Today TEST-AIMANT is in waiting to be released.
The virtual clones orchestra, in my music works, stays as an obsession: there is several
exemple
of, done and music in project: like in 2002 "Jeux & Interdits" (Forbidden Games) where" I cloned my 9-tone electric guitar in 4 independent clones. listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html in 2003 "ti.Me Has No Age" where I cloned my archisonic lamp
(http://centrebombe.org/lamps.html)in
an orchestra of 161 clones you can listen at http://centrebombe.org/mp3-free.html My next project is also about virtual orchestra of clones "Unisolable & Unduplicable, the
recipe
of Freedom" http://centrebombe.org/2007.residency.proposal(the Lamplayer.vs.the.Machines).pdf
The schematic of VOX CLONA (in attachment) gives you a precise purpose of what I would like to generate: one live voice (mine) generating an independant choir of 13 voices with its
independent
contrepoint projected in 3D sound space. I should perhaps translated in English what I wrote
in
French? Thanks for your interest mathius shadow-sky
--- Luigi Rensinghoff luigi.rensinghoff@freenet.de wrote:
Am 15.03.2007 um 14:21 schrieb the center of the bomb:
That sound really interesting, i have been doing some multichannel
stuff with vbap......You want to tell me more ??
you have an IM ??
Luigi
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the center of the bomb wrote:
I am asking nicely to other Pure Data practitioners: where can I find these already solved and available patches of: 3D spatialization, continuous pitch shifting (to make several glissando at the same time), delays for complex rhythms generator, to release the TEST-AIMANT VOX CLONA diagram?
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