yeah had a few min today to take some more look at this.
been reading up on the whole tk-cocoa thing too...
as far as I can tell, there are not multiple issues but one larger one narrowed down to:
Oct 27 15:01:49 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111027[15460] <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid hot spot (outside of size)
which occurs specifically when switching with the mouse between the PD console window and the canvas/patch window.
also I was totally wrong here:
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
windows CAN be resized on lion from any corner (Any Corner Resizing) although again, on my tk-cocoa build PD will crash when trying to resize from the bottom right or left. This is NOT true of the PD console window though which can be resized without a problem from any corner.
my question is: whats the difference between the code for the PD console window that allows for resizing at any corner and the PD canvas windows that do not? I think this may be the heart of the prob with the crashes and weird error (CGSRegisterCursorWithImages) .... maybe.
other thing i am noticing is the mouse pointer keeping weird states (double pointer, etc) without reverting back to a pointer. I also get no "hand2" in edit mode. not sure if this is related to the windowing problem though...
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
i think im just starting to get old
m
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com?
you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those. those are fine...
but maybe more importantly:
Duh, sorry, the point was to test Pd without the included Tcl/Tk and to use Mac OS X's Tk/Cocoa.
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
my eyes are bleeding so more from me will have to wait until tomorrow.
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
.hc
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:51 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
well commenting out lines 84 -> 86 in pdwindow.tcl stops the message:
UNHANDLED ERROR: can't find package tkdnd while executing "package require tkdnd" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $tclcode" FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl
from appearing in the pd window.
maybe thats something. IDK.
That's a red herring, you really want those lines in pdwindow.tcl since they show you Tcl errors. The UNHANDLED ERROR that you are seeing is caused by the file /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl. Remove that file and it will go away.
i will have to mess with i more when i get time. I also wanted to mention that I get spinning beachball and prog crash when I try to resize a new doc only starting from the bottom right. all other window resizing (upper left and right, bottom left) work fine. does that mean anything to you?
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
anyway here is the crash report:
That seems to show stuff deep in Tcl, so its hard to know what's going on from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com? It should have more info since its built with debug symbols.
.hc
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Since CGSRegisterCursorWithImages is a private function and it is not called directly form Pd, one could say it's a bug in CG per se - because the function that calls it from inside CG shall not pass on any illegal calls.
Andras
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 21:19, m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
yeah had a few min today to take some more look at this.
been reading up on the whole tk-cocoa thing too...
as far as I can tell, there are not multiple issues but one larger one narrowed down to:
Oct 27 15:01:49 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111027[15460] <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid hot spot (outside of size)
which occurs specifically when switching with the mouse between the PD console window and the canvas/patch window.
also I was totally wrong here:
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's
a
Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
windows CAN be resized on lion from any corner (Any Corner Resizing) although again, on my tk-cocoa build PD will crash when trying to resize from the bottom right or left. This is NOT true of the PD console window though which can be resized without a problem from any corner.
my question is: whats the difference between the code for the PD console window that allows for resizing at any corner and the PD canvas windows that do not? I think this may be the heart of the prob with the crashes and weird error (CGSRegisterCursorWithImages) .... maybe.
other thing i am noticing is the mouse pointer keeping weird states (double pointer, etc) without reverting back to a pointer. I also get no "hand2" in edit mode. not sure if this is related to the windowing problem though...
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
i think im just starting to get old
m
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and
post
the crash log to a pastebin.com?
you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those. those are fine...
but maybe more importantly:
Duh, sorry, the point was to test Pd without the included Tcl/Tk and to
use
Mac OS X's Tk/Cocoa.
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's
a
Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
my eyes are bleeding so more from me will have to wait until tomorrow.
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
.hc
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:51 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
well commenting out lines 84 -> 86 in pdwindow.tcl stops the message:
UNHANDLED ERROR: can't find package tkdnd while executing "package require tkdnd" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $tclcode" FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl
from appearing in the pd window.
maybe thats something. IDK.
That's a red herring, you really want those lines in pdwindow.tcl since they show you Tcl errors. The UNHANDLED ERROR that you are seeing is caused by the file /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl. Remove that file and it will go away.
i will have to mess with i more when i get time. I also wanted to mention that I get spinning beachball and prog crash when I try to resize a new doc only starting from the bottom right. all other window resizing (upper left and right, bottom left) work fine. does that mean anything to you?
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's
a
Lion thing.
anyway here is the crash report:
That seems to show stuff deep in Tcl, so its hard to know what's going
on
from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and
post
the crash log to a pastebin.com? It should have more info since its built with debug symbols.
.hc
ok thanks for that! yeah I also independently verified this too....
so.... here is the crazy report:
and i noticed i noticed:
0x7fff8de93000 - 0x7fff8e1b7fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.8
(???) <A3BE7C59-52E6-3A7F-9B30-24B7DD3E95F2> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
Carbon? isnt this supposed to be using Cocoa?
- 10 -[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing)
_hitTestWithHysteresisCheck:forEvent:allowWindowDragging:] + 346 (in AppKit) [0x7fff89d9ecf9] 10 +[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing) _mouseHysteresisCheck:withExpiration:andDistance:finalMouseLocation:]
- 483 (in AppKit) [0x7fff89dea25f]
crash is related all to the window resizing....
cheers m
2011/10/27 András Murányi muranyia@gmail.com:
Since CGSRegisterCursorWithImages is a private function and it is not called directly form Pd, one could say it's a bug in CG per se - because the function that calls it from inside CG shall not pass on any illegal calls.
Andras
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 21:19, m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
yeah had a few min today to take some more look at this.
been reading up on the whole tk-cocoa thing too...
as far as I can tell, there are not multiple issues but one larger one narrowed down to:
Oct 27 15:01:49 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111027[15460] <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid hot spot (outside of size)
which occurs specifically when switching with the mouse between the PD console window and the canvas/patch window.
also I was totally wrong here:
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
windows CAN be resized on lion from any corner (Any Corner Resizing) although again, on my tk-cocoa build PD will crash when trying to resize from the bottom right or left. This is NOT true of the PD console window though which can be resized without a problem from any corner.
my question is: whats the difference between the code for the PD console window that allows for resizing at any corner and the PD canvas windows that do not? I think this may be the heart of the prob with the crashes and weird error (CGSRegisterCursorWithImages) .... maybe.
other thing i am noticing is the mouse pointer keeping weird states (double pointer, etc) without reverting back to a pointer. I also get no "hand2" in edit mode. not sure if this is related to the windowing problem though...
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
i think im just starting to get old
m
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com?
you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those. those are fine...
but maybe more importantly:
Duh, sorry, the point was to test Pd without the included Tcl/Tk and to use Mac OS X's Tk/Cocoa.
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
my eyes are bleeding so more from me will have to wait until tomorrow.
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
.hc
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:51 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
well commenting out lines 84 -> 86 in pdwindow.tcl stops the message:
UNHANDLED ERROR: can't find package tkdnd while executing "package require tkdnd" ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $tclcode" FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl
from appearing in the pd window.
maybe thats something. IDK.
That's a red herring, you really want those lines in pdwindow.tcl since they show you Tcl errors. The UNHANDLED ERROR that you are seeing is caused by the file /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl. Remove that file and it will go away.
i will have to mess with i more when i get time. I also wanted to mention that I get spinning beachball and prog crash when I try to resize a new doc only starting from the bottom right. all other window resizing (upper left and right, bottom left) work fine. does that mean anything to you?
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
anyway here is the crash report:
That seems to show stuff deep in Tcl, so its hard to know what's going on from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com? It should have more info since its built with debug symbols.
.hc
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On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:52 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
ok thanks for that! yeah I also independently verified this too....
so.... here is the crazy report:
and i noticed i noticed:
0x7fff8de93000 - 0x7fff8e1b7fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.8(???) <A3BE7C59-52E6-3A7F-9B30-24B7DD3E95F2> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
Carbon? isnt this supposed to be using Cocoa?
I think there is a portion of Carbon that is maintained and ported to 64-bit. I think it was the Carbon UI stuff that was dropped. http://www.carbondev.com/site/?page=64-bit+Carbon
- 10 -[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing)
_hitTestWithHysteresisCheck:forEvent:allowWindowDragging:] + 346 (in AppKit) [0x7fff89d9ecf9] 10 +[NSWindow(NSWindowResizing) _mouseHysteresisCheck:withExpiration:andDistance:finalMouseLocation:]
- 483 (in AppKit) [0x7fff89dea25f]
crash is related all to the window resizing....
That code is Obj-C, so probably Cocoa...
.hc
cheers m
2011/10/27 András Murányi muranyia@gmail.com:
Since CGSRegisterCursorWithImages is a private function and it is not called directly form Pd, one could say it's a bug in CG per se - because the function that calls it from inside CG shall not pass on any illegal calls.
Andras
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 21:19, m.e.grimm megrimm@gmail.com wrote:
yeah had a few min today to take some more look at this.
been reading up on the whole tk-cocoa thing too...
as far as I can tell, there are not multiple issues but one larger one narrowed down to:
Oct 27 15:01:49 megrimm-mbp.local Pd-0.43.1-extended-20111027[15460] <Error>: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid hot spot (outside of size)
which occurs specifically when switching with the mouse between the PD console window and the canvas/patch window.
also I was totally wrong here:
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
windows CAN be resized on lion from any corner (Any Corner Resizing) although again, on my tk-cocoa build PD will crash when trying to resize from the bottom right or left. This is NOT true of the PD console window though which can be resized without a problem from any corner.
my question is: whats the difference between the code for the PD console window that allows for resizing at any corner and the PD canvas windows that do not? I think this may be the heart of the prob with the crashes and weird error (CGSRegisterCursorWithImages) .... maybe.
other thing i am noticing is the mouse pointer keeping weird states (double pointer, etc) without reverting back to a pointer. I also get no "hand2" in edit mode. not sure if this is related to the windowing problem though...
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
i think im just starting to get old
m
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com?
you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those. those are fine...
but maybe more importantly:
Duh, sorry, the point was to test Pd without the included Tcl/Tk and to use Mac OS X's Tk/Cocoa.
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
No I actually CAN NOT with the autobuild ONLY with my special tk/cocoa build....
my eyes are bleeding so more from me will have to wait until tomorrow.
I know that feeling all to well, it's nice to have some company in it.
.hc
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at wrote:
On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:51 PM, m.e.grimm wrote:
> well commenting out lines 84 -> 86 in pdwindow.tcl stops the message: > > ----------- > UNHANDLED ERROR: can't find package tkdnd > while executing > "package require tkdnd" > ("uplevel" body line 1) > invoked from within > "uplevel #0 $tclcode" > FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl > ----------- > > > from appearing in the pd window. > > maybe thats something. IDK.
That's a red herring, you really want those lines in pdwindow.tcl since they show you Tcl errors. The UNHANDLED ERROR that you are seeing is caused by the file /Library/Pd/tkdnd-plugin.tcl. Remove that file and it will go away.
> i will have to mess with i more when i get time. I also wanted to > mention that I get spinning beachball and prog crash when I try to > resize a new doc only starting from the bottom right. all other > window > resizing (upper left and right, bottom left) work fine. does that > mean > anything to you?
You can resize on the left, right, and bottom left now? I guess that's a Lion thing.
> anyway here is the crash report:
That seems to show stuff deep in Tcl, so its hard to know what's going on from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com? It should have more info since its built with debug symbols.
.hc
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