When using [hid] and friends on GNU/Linux, you generally need to setup
things so you have permission to read the device directly:

http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRo...

.hc

On Jun 19, 2010, at 11:20 AM, James Dunn wrote:

Hi dmotd,

that's perfect! thanks a lot

James

Quoth dmotd, on 19/06/10 16:02:

...

hi james,

the synaptics driver generally steals the focus of the device so that userspace programs can't directly access it, see if the Xorg option 'Option "GrabEventDevice" "false"' helps, see 'man synaptics' for more info.

cheers, dmotd

James Dunn wrote:

...

I've tried using [hid] and [linuxmouse] and both objects can open
the device but no data is output from either object. [MouseState] and
[cursor] both work but I was hoping to get relative values. Is this a driver issue?
I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 and Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc3. Here's the console
output:

[hid] 0.7, written by Hans-Christoph Steinerhans@eds.org compiled on Jun 13 2010 at 11:45:43

Device 0: 'Macintosh mouse button emulation' on '/dev/input/event0' Device 1: 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' on '/dev/input/event1' Device 2: 'PC Speaker' on '/dev/input/event2' Device 3: 'Power Button (FF)' on '/dev/input/event3' Device 4: 'Sleep Button (CM)' on '/dev/input/event4' Device 5: 'Lid Switch' on '/dev/input/event5' Device 6: 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' on '/dev/input/event6' Device 7: 'Video Bus' on '/dev/input/event7' Device 8: 'PS/2 Generic Mouse' on '/dev/input/event8'

Supported events:

Detected: [hid] opened device 6 (/dev/input/event6): SynPS/2 Synaptics
TouchPad print: open 1 print: device 6

Also my xorg.conf has this info:

Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "FALSE" Option "VertEdgeScroll" "FALSE" Option "SHMconfig" "on" Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE" Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE" EndSection

Any ideas?

thanks,

James

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pddp/pddplink perhaps?

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On Jun 20, 2010, at 12:23 AM, philippe boisnard wrote:

Hello

I have a big black hole, I don't remember the object to open
directly a web-browser and a link.

thanks

p

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Hello

an other solution with [system] to open webpage and other document for
example image.

but I search with applescript to define the name of safari or firefox
or preview window ? do you have idea about this problem ?

b_r

p

the command open tells finder to open a file or url with the default software.

why not

"open http://www.wikipedia.org" --> [shell]

???

2010/7/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

Seems like a generic osascript object would be a good idea:

.hc

On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:00 AM, philippe boisnard wrote:

...

Hello

an other solution with [system] to open webpage and other document for example image.

but I search with applescript to define the name of safari or firefox or preview window ? do you have idea about this problem ?

b_r

p

<openimage.pd><openwebpage.pd>

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You can do a lot more with AppleScript, that's just a functional
example.

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On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:

the command open tells finder to open a file or url with the default
software.

why not

"open http://www.wikipedia.org" --> [shell]

???

2010/7/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

Seems like a generic osascript object would be a good idea:

.hc

On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:00 AM, philippe boisnard wrote:

...

Hello

an other solution with [system] to open webpage and other document
for example image.

but I search with applescript to define the name of safari or
firefox or preview window ? do you have idea about this problem ?

b_r

p

<openimage.pd><openwebpage.pd>

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hi

I don´t know, if i´m right, but i made a little patch using pddp-link.
maybe its helpfull for you

best regards der.brandt

Zitat von "Bernardo Barros" bernardobarros2@gmail.com:

yeah :-)

But bash scripts also can do a lot (I think much more, but I don´t know applescript so well) and run on gnu/linux AND osx.

2010/7/8 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

You can do a lot more with AppleScript, that's just a functional example.

.hc

On Jul 7, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:

...

the command open tells finder to open a file or url with the default software.

why not

"open http://www.wikipedia.org"  --> [shell]

???

2010/7/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at:

...

Seems like a generic osascript object would be a good idea:

.hc

On Jul 4, 2010, at 5:00 AM, philippe boisnard wrote:

...

Hello

an other solution with [system] to open webpage and other document for example image.

but I search with applescript to define the name of safari or firefox or preview window ? do you have idea about this problem ?

b_r

p

<openimage.pd><openwebpage.pd>

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'xinput --list' provides a list of all supported devices.

Pedro Lopes wrote:

I've never used hid or linuxmouse. And when I saw your message I gave it a try (since I'm also running Ubuntu and have a synaptics touchpad).

I'd like to help but here it seems to be even a bigger mess... it crashes when accessing the mouse evice with hid. (probably because of the user space issue that dmotd mentioned).

How did you get that device list? Is it a print from hid? (the only things I remember is lspci and lsusb)

Best regards to everyone, and big up to Hans-Christoph Steiner for hid and linuxmouse, Pedro

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:48 PM, dmotd inaudible@simplesuperlativ.es wrote:

also another tip, its possible to configure a
device dynamically with 'xinput', you can
toggle off with:
 xinput --set-prop "name of device" "Device Enabled" 0
i use this with my wacom tablet to go between
xorg device and HID, a full set of properties
can be found with:
 xinput --list-props "name of device"
i hope this is of help.

James Dunn wrote:
> I've tried using [hid] and [linuxmouse] and both objects can open the
device
> but no data is output from either object. [MouseState] and [cursor] both
work
> but I was hoping to get relative values. Is this a driver issue? I'm
using
> Ubuntu 8.04 and Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc3. Here's the console
output:
>
> [hid] 0.7, written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org>
>     compiled on Jun 13 2010 at 11:45:43
>
> Device 0: 'Macintosh mouse button emulation' on '/dev/input/event0'
> Device 1: 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' on '/dev/input/event1'
> Device 2: 'PC Speaker' on '/dev/input/event2'
> Device 3: 'Power Button (FF)' on '/dev/input/event3'
> Device 4: 'Sleep Button (CM)' on '/dev/input/event4'
> Device 5: 'Lid Switch' on '/dev/input/event5'
> Device 6: 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' on '/dev/input/event6'
> Device 7: 'Video Bus' on '/dev/input/event7'
> Device 8: 'PS/2 Generic Mouse' on '/dev/input/event8'
>
>
> Supported events:
>
> Detected:
> [hid] opened device 6 (/dev/input/event6): SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
> print: open 1
> print: device 6
>
>
> Also my xorg.conf has this info:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
>     Driver      "synaptics"
>     Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
>     Option        "Device" "/dev/psaux"
>     Option        "Protocol" "auto-dev"
>     Option        "HorizEdgeScroll" "FALSE"
>     Option        "VertEdgeScroll" "FALSE"
>     Option        "SHMconfig" "on"
>     Option        "VertTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE"
>     Option        "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE"
> EndSection
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> thanks,
>
> James

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The problems I now have are that my version of xinput is 1.3.0 (Ubuntu Hardy) and I don't have the --set-prop option. Since the GrabEventDevice option in xorg.conf messes up my xserver, I tried removing the synaptics driver completely and I can now get the data in via [hid] and [linuxevent]. The problem is that I no longer have two-fingered scrolling and can't disable the touchpad tap without a driver. I tried to install the Alps driver but had an error as reported here:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1277553#3

any help appreciated

James

Quoth Pedro Lopes, on 20/06/10 11:08:

Yep, it does. When you posted the second reply mentioning xinput I did xinput --help and there it was "the --list command".

Thanks for the help, Pedro

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:22 AM, dmotd <inaudible@simplesuperlativ.es mailto:inaudible@simplesuperlativ.es> wrote:

'xinput --list' provides a list of all
supported devices.

Pedro Lopes wrote:
> I've never used hid or linuxmouse. And when I saw your message I
gave it a try
> (since I'm also running Ubuntu and have a synaptics touchpad).
>
> I'd like to help but here it seems to be even a bigger mess...
it crashes when
> accessing the mouse evice with hid. (probably because of the
user space issue
> that dmotd mentioned).
>
> How did you get that device list? Is it a print from hid? (the
only things I
> remember is lspci and lsusb)
>
> Best regards to everyone, and big up to Hans-Christoph Steiner
for hid and
> linuxmouse,
> Pedro
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:48 PM, dmotd
<inaudible@simplesuperlativ.es
<mailto:inaudible@simplesuperlativ.es>> wrote:
>
>     also another tip, its possible to configure a
>     device dynamically with 'xinput', you can
>     toggle off with:
>      xinput --set-prop "name of device" "Device Enabled" 0
>     i use this with my wacom tablet to go between
>     xorg device and HID, a full set of properties
>     can be found with:
>      xinput --list-props "name of device"
>     i hope this is of help.
>
>     James Dunn wrote:
> > I've tried using [hid] and [linuxmouse] and both objects can
open the
>     device
> > but no data is output from either object. [MouseState] and
[cursor] both
>     work
> > but I was hoping to get relative values. Is this a driver
issue? I'm
>     using
> > Ubuntu 8.04 and Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc3. Here's the console
>     output:
> >
> > [hid] 0.7, written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org
<mailto:hans@eds.org>>
> >     compiled on Jun 13 2010 at 11:45:43
> >
> > Device 0: 'Macintosh mouse button emulation' on
'/dev/input/event0'
> > Device 1: 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' on '/dev/input/event1'
> > Device 2: 'PC Speaker' on '/dev/input/event2'
> > Device 3: 'Power Button (FF)' on '/dev/input/event3'
> > Device 4: 'Sleep Button (CM)' on '/dev/input/event4'
> > Device 5: 'Lid Switch' on '/dev/input/event5'
> > Device 6: 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' on '/dev/input/event6'
> > Device 7: 'Video Bus' on '/dev/input/event7'
> > Device 8: 'PS/2 Generic Mouse' on '/dev/input/event8'
> >
> >
> > Supported events:
> >
> > Detected:
> > [hid] opened device 6 (/dev/input/event6): SynPS/2 Synaptics
TouchPad
> > print: open 1
> > print: device 6
> >
> >
> > Also my xorg.conf has this info:
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >     Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
> >     Driver      "synaptics"
> >     Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
> >     Option        "Device" "/dev/psaux"
> >     Option        "Protocol" "auto-dev"
> >     Option        "HorizEdgeScroll" "FALSE"
> >     Option        "VertEdgeScroll" "FALSE"
> >     Option        "SHMconfig" "on"
> >     Option        "VertTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE"
> >     Option        "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "TRUE"
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > James