Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
Did you open the patch by double-clicking on it?
.b.
Rich E wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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Alas, I'm talking nonsense.
"Linux" did not jump out for me.
Sorry I can't help.
You are copying the .pdsettings into your home directory right? (or is it supposed to happen automatically?)
.b.
B. Bogart wrote:
Did you open the patch by double-clicking on it?
.b.
Rich E wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/
libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future
packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I
haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list-
abs mapping mar
kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango
pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this
script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working?
I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem:
none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the
externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are
not locatable within Pd.Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any
libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.Thanks for any help, Richie
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- Benjamin Franklin
At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on the great job.
I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy, cyclone, hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches those folders for the external?
Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try to help.
Tom
.pdsettings contents follows:
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: pdp loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: gridflow loadlib5: ascii nloadlib: 5 defeatrt: 0 flags:
On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/ libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list- abs mapping mar kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick
in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on
the great job.
Thanks, its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I
guess I am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk of
work in.
I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy,
cyclone, hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches
those folders for the external?
Yeah, is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further into
a generic library format for objects written in any language, C, C++,
Pd, C#, python, whatever. This would be in conjunction with Thomas'
loader extension and things like the Common Language Runtime API for
Pd that was recently announced.
Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually
implemented:
http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir
Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try
to help.
Excellent! The more, the merrier :)
Tom
.pdsettings contents follows:
Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try this .pdsettings
file:

.hc
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: pdp loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: gridflow loadlib5: ascii nloadlib: 5 defeatrt: 0 flags:
On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/ libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list- abs mapping mar kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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I tried Hans' .pdsettings and Pd tells me:
em: can't load library /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: libgslcblas.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory pdp: can't load library gridflow: can't load library ascii: can't load library
So, I took Tom's advice and added paths for all the subfolders in /usr/lib/pd/extra. Many more things work now, but about 1/4 of everything is missing still. There are all some object errors. Here are some of the most recent that I ran into in my day's exploration:
ext13 - [cdplayer] load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found cdplayer ... couldn't create
vasp library missing, but help files are there [pool] and [OSC] not there. [Gem] too... but I think you have mentioned this isn't possible yet.
On the positive side, the Pd Documentation Browser is really nice in 39.2. References and manuals are easy to find. On the negative side, right-click helps don't work, I probably have to add a -helppath flag for every subfolder in the pd/doc/5.reference folder. I'd like to help do what I can, but I think most of my problems are because I cannot load the 'libdirs' as your .pdsettings file does.
I hate to always ask questions about why things aren't working... but dernit, this program has a steap learning curve and I'm working on it. You guys do amazing work and I'm determined to get up to speed at the risk of being annoying.
Richie
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Date: Mar 30, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD] can't use Pd-extended externals To: tom@danslchamp.org Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on the great job.
Thanks, its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I guess I am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk of work in.
I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy, cyclone, hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches those folders for the external?
Yeah, is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further into a generic library format for objects written in any language, C, C++, Pd, C#, python, whatever. This would be in conjunction with Thomas' loader extension and things like the Common Language Runtime API for Pd that was recently announced.
Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually implemented:
http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir
Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try to help.
Excellent! The more, the merrier :)
Tom
.pdsettings contents follows:
Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try this .pdsettings file:
.hc
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: pdp loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: gridflow loadlib5: ascii nloadlib: 5 defeatrt: 0 flags:
On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/ libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list- abs mapping mar kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Rich E wrote:
I tried Hans' .pdsettings and Pd tells me:
em: can't load library
Is the Gem with the Gem cut off?
/usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: libgslcblas.so.0: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory pdp: can't load library
You'll need to install libgslcblas.so.0:
apt-get install libgsl0
gridflow: can't load library
GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in
the .pdsettings file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a
~/.pdrc?
ascii: can't load library
Neither is this, I don't know what that is. Its not in
the .pdsettings I generated either.
So, I took Tom's advice and added paths for all the subfolders in / usr/lib/pd/extra. Many more things work now, but about 1/4 of
everything is missing still. There are all some object errors.
Here are some of the most recent that I ran into in my day's
exploration:
ext13 - [cdplayer] load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found cdplayer ... couldn't create
Donno if anyone is maintaining that...
vasp library missing, but help files are there [pool] and [OSC] not there. [Gem] too... but I think you have
mentioned this isn't possible yet.
On GNU/Linux, those aren't included yet. But I am working on finding
people to help me get it included. I need help with getting flext
and Gem building with Pd-extended. Any volunteers?
On the positive side, the Pd Documentation Browser is really nice
in 39.2. References and manuals are easy to find. On the negative
side, right-click helps don't work, I probably have to add a - helppath flag for every subfolder in the pd/doc/5.reference
folder. I'd like to help do what I can, but I think most of my
problems are because I cannot load the 'libdirs' as
your .pdsettings file does.
The libdir thing will handle the helppaths.
I hate to always ask questions about why things aren't working...
but dernit, this program has a steap learning curve and I'm working
on it. You guys do amazing work and I'm determined to get up to
speed at the risk of being annoying.
It does indeed, but I don't think anyone thinks this is a good
thing. Its just a matter of doing the work to make things run
smoothly. One thing you could do is document your process of trying
to get things working. You can get a free site on puredata.org and
make a wiki page there, or whatever.
.hc
Richie
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Date: Mar 30, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD] can't use Pd-extended externals To: tom@danslchamp.org Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick
in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on
the great job.Thanks, its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I
guess I am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk
of work in.I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy,
cyclone, hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches
those folders for the external?Yeah, is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further
into a generic library format for objects written in any language,
C, C++, Pd, C#, python, whatever. This would be in conjunction
with Thomas' loader extension and things like the Common Language
Runtime API for Pd that was recently announced.Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually
implemented:http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir
Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try
to help.Excellent! The more, the merrier :)
Tom
.pdsettings contents follows:
Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try
this .pdsettings file:.hc
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: pdp loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: gridflow loadlib5: ascii nloadlib: 5 defeatrt: 0 flags:
On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote:
Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each
lib/ libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list- abs mapping mar kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories
back
into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory
paths
to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E <reakinator@gmail.com > wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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<.pdsettings>
"Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a
more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in
practice, it can change entire economies."
- Amy Smith
Rich! You tried to load my .pdsettings (not compatible with pd-extended), not Hans'.
Ascii is a library for converting numerical values into their ascii equivalent. It was created by Marc Lavallée and should be included in pd-extended/committed to cvs. Very usefull for serial communication.
Tom
On 3/31/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
On Mar 31, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Rich E wrote:
I tried Hans' .pdsettings and Pd tells me:
em: can't load library
Is the Gem with the Gem cut off?
/usr/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_linux: libgslcblas.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory pdp: can't load library
You'll need to install libgslcblas.so.0 :
apt-get install libgsl0
gridflow: can't load library
GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in the .pdsettings file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?
ascii: can't load library
Neither is this, I don't know what that is. Its not in the .pdsettings I generated either.
So, I took Tom's advice and added paths for all the subfolders in /usr/lib/pd/extra. Many more things work now, but about 1/4 of everything is missing still. There are all some object errors. Here are some of the most recent that I ran into in my day's exploration:
ext13 - [cdplayer] load_object: Symbol "cdplayer_setup" not found cdplayer ... couldn't create
Donno if anyone is maintaining that...
vasp library missing, but help files are there [pool] and [OSC] not there. [Gem] too... but I think you have mentioned this isn't possible yet.
On GNU/Linux, those aren't included yet. But I am working on finding people to help me get it included. I need help with getting flext and Gem building with Pd-extended. Any volunteers?
On the positive side, the Pd Documentation Browser is really nice in 39.2. References and manuals are easy to find. On the negative side, right-click helps don't work, I probably have to add a -helppath flag for every subfolder in the pd/doc/5.reference folder. I'd like to help do what I can, but I think most of my problems are because I cannot load the 'libdirs' as your .pdsettings file does.
The libdir thing will handle the helppaths.
I hate to always ask questions about why things aren't working... but dernit, this program has a steap learning curve and I'm working on it. You guys do amazing work and I'm determined to get up to speed at the risk of being annoying.
It does indeed, but I don't think anyone thinks this is a good thing. Its just a matter of doing the work to make things run smoothly. One thing you could do is document your process of trying to get things working. You can get a free site on puredata.org and make a wiki page there, or whatever.
.hc
Richie
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org Date: Mar 30, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [PD] can't use Pd-extended externals To: tom@danslchamp.org Cc: pd-list < pd-list@iem.at>
On Mar 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
At the end of this mail is an example of my .pdsettings My pd rests at /usr/lib/pd I use a Debian package of PD, and compile some stuff, but I pick in your compiled pd-extended externals often. Congratulations on the great job.
Thanks, its actually the collected effort of many, many people. I guess I am the most visible since I most recently put a big chunk of work in.
I do not understand your loading of folders as libs (like toxy, cyclone, hid, etc..). Is this a kind of hack so that Pd searches those folders for the external?
Yeah, is a hack I call libdirs that I plan on developing further into a generic library format for objects written in any language, C, C++, Pd, C#, python, whatever. This would be in conjunction with Thomas' loader extension and things like the Common Language Runtime API for Pd that was recently announced.
Here is some documentation about the idea and what's actually implemented:
http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir
Once Pd goes up a version I will switch to you pd-extended and try to help.
Excellent! The more, the merrier :)
Tom
.pdsettings contents follows:
Cool, just what I needed to fix up the script. Try this .pdsettings file:
.hc
audioapi: 2 noaudioin: False audioindev1: 0 2 noaudioout: False audiooutdev1: 0 2 audiobuf: 50 rate: 44100 nomidiin: True nomidiout: True path1: /usr/lib/pd/extra path2: /usr/lib/pd/extra/gridflow/pd_abstractions npath: 2 standardpath: 1 verbose: 0 loadlib1: Gem loadlib2: pdp loadlib3: zexy loadlib4: gridflow loadlib5: ascii nloadlib: 5 defeatrt: 0 flags:
On 3/30/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org> wrote:
Or even better you could write a .pdsettings file that loads each lib/ libdir in Pd-extended and send it to me to include in future packages. I already have such a file for Mac OS X and Windows, but I haven't had a chance to make one for GNU/Linux.
Here's the list of libs included in Pd-extended:
Gem cyclone zexy cxc ext13 fftease hid iemabs iemmatrix liblist list- abs mapping mar kex maxlib memento mjlib motex oscx pddp pdogg pdp pidip pixeltango pmpd rradical sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vasp vbap xsample
This script automatically generates the Mac OS X and Windows one:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/pure-data/scripts/generate-pd- settings-files.sh?rev=1.2&view=log
Probably the best solution would be to add the code to make this script also generate a .pd-settings file for GNU/Linux.
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E <reakinator@gmail.com > wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none of the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals in pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any libraries that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
gridflow: can't load library
GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in the .pdsettings file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?
in CVS HEAD, externals/gridflow contains a source release of gridflow 0.8.2. It needs ./configure && make and then you can't "make install" anymore because and you don't need to, either.
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Do not forget to add GridFlow's pd_abstractions (that are in the gridflow folder) to the path.
Tom
On 3/31/06, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
gridflow: can't load library
GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in the
.pdsettings
file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?
in CVS HEAD, externals/gridflow contains a source release of gridflow 0.8.2. It needs ./configure && make and then you can't "make install" anymore because and you don't need to, either.
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks wrote:
On 3/31/06, Mathieu Bouchard matju@artengine.ca wrote:
in CVS HEAD, externals/gridflow contains a source release of gridflow 0.8.2. It needs ./configure && make and then you can't "make install" anymore because and you don't need to, either.
Do not forget to add GridFlow's pd_abstractions (that are in the gridflow folder) to the path.
And a -helppath to gridflow/doc/flow_classes
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On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
gridflow: can't load library
GridFlow is not in Pd-extended (yet?). GridFlow is not in
the .pdsettings file that i generated. Perhaps you need to delete a ~/.pdrc?in CVS HEAD, externals/gridflow contains a source release of gridflow 0.8.2. It needs ./configure && make and then you can't "make install" anymore because and you don't need to, either.
If you could add this to externals/Makefile, then gridflow can
automatically be included in Pd-extended. There is a section labeled
"TEMPLATE", copy that whole section, paste it between the "freeverb"
and "hardware" sections, then do a search-replace on "template" for
"gridflow". You'll want a search-replace that preserves the case in
the replacing. Then adjust where you need to. To test it "cd
external/ && make gridflow_install"
Here are more in-depth instructions:
http://puredata.org/docs/developer/build
What are the dependencies?
.hc
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Is there a .pdsettings file that comes with Pd-extended? The puredata.orgfaq page says this file is hidden, maybe I just can't find it because I don't know how. In any case, it seems like the extras folder should be set up to 'just work', but it doesn't know what paths to look in. Do I need to list all the paths in the extras folder myself, or is this already done in the installer somewhere?
Richie
On 3/30/06, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks iamonthebeach@gmail.com wrote:
You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E reakinator@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working? I have both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem: none
of
the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the externals
in
pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories are not locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any
libraries
that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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See my previous email...
.hc
On Mar 30, 2006, at 8:36 PM, Rich E wrote:
Is there a .pdsettings file that comes with Pd-extended? The
puredata.org faq page says this file is hidden, maybe I just can't
find it because I don't know how. In any case, it seems like the
extras folder should be set up to 'just work', but it doesn't know
what paths to look in. Do I need to list all the paths in the
extras folder myself, or is this already done in the installer
somewhere?Richie
On 3/30/06, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks iamonthebeach@gmail.com wrote: You could dump all the externals that are in the subdirectories back into the extra directory or you could add all the subdirectory paths to your Path... submenu in PD.
Tom
On 3/30/06, Rich E < reakinator@gmail.com> wrote:
Could anyone help me get the linux Pd-extended examples working?
I have
both 38.4-RC8 and 39.2-test1 running, but with the same problem:
none of
the externals in the example patches are found. I can use the
externals in
pd/extra/ but most of the externals that are in subdirectories
are not
locatable within Pd.
Everything installs smoothly...and there doesn't seem to be any
libraries
that need to be loaded.. I'm stuck.
Thanks for any help, Richie
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