Hello friends,
I introduce you to [ARRAST_VJ], a tool for live video mixing and mapping (with audio) developed with Pd Vanilla + GEM.
[ARRAST_VJ] was developed in the Linux operating system, in which all features work. Mac OS computers running GEM also run the full version. For Windows users, a "Light" version was created, without audio and with other small differences.
Finally we have completed the translation of the manual and patch comments into English. The patch was released in Brazil in 2017 with documentation in Portuguese.
You can find downloads and complete information about the project on the site, including video tutorials (in Portuguese) and other records.
This work was only possible thanks to the efforts of many people in this community, I am very grateful to all, and I hope to continue contributing for many years.
Doubts and comments are welcome here or on our channels on facebook, instagram, youtube, gmail (links on the site).
I hope it's useful to you!
www.arrastvj.org
https://github.com/brunorohde/ARRAST_VJ
Viva!! Congratulations! Long live to [ARRAST_VJ] Abraço jjR
Em qua, 9 de mai de 2018 15:12, Bruno Rohde brunorohde@gmail.com escreveu:
Hello friends,
I introduce you to [ARRAST_VJ], a tool for live video mixing and mapping (with audio) developed with Pd Vanilla + GEM.
[ARRAST_VJ] was developed in the Linux operating system, in which all features work. Mac OS computers running GEM also run the full version. For Windows users, a "Light" version was created, without audio and with other small differences.
Finally we have completed the translation of the manual and patch comments into English. The patch was released in Brazil in 2017 with documentation in Portuguese.
You can find downloads and complete information about the project on the site, including video tutorials (in Portuguese) and other records.
This work was only possible thanks to the efforts of many people in this community, I am very grateful to all, and I hope to continue contributing for many years.
Doubts and comments are welcome here or on our channels on facebook, instagram, youtube, gmail (links on the site).
I hope it's useful to you!
www.arrastvj.org
https://github.com/brunorohde/ARRAST_VJ
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Bruno Rohde wrote:
Hello friends,
I introduce you to [ARRAST_VJ], a tool for live video mixing and mapping (with audio) developed with Pd Vanilla + GEM.
[ARRAST_VJ] was developed in the Linux operating system, in which all features work. Mac OS computers running GEM also run the full version. For Windows users, a "Light" version was created, without audio and with other small differences.
hi, bruno !
absolutely fantastic piece of work ! just tried it on windows and linux, everything works as expected ! great !
is there any reason the windows version doesn't officially support audio ? i gave the "full" version a try on my windows system anyway and it worked flawlessly with your test-video/audio !
obviously the [pix_share] objects don't work (they don't work on win32 but that is stated in their helpfile)
best
oliver
Hello Oliver!
Thank you very much for the encouragement.
The reason for the Light version not to play audio is that audio and video playback needs to be performed on 2 instances of the Pd so as not to generate audio clicks as it does in the full version. At the time of development, the object [pd~], used to manage the two instances and their communication, presented a serious problem in Windows, because it was not possible to run a patch located in a path with spaces in the name, and this is standard in Windows (ex: C:/Program Files/). If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet. The other point was mentioned by you: Gem's [pix_share] object does not work on Windows, and it is fundamental in the current design of [ARRAST_VJ] with respect to the use of the camera, which has its image shared between the two instances through of [pix_share]. The choice made under these conditions was to create a version (Light) of [ARRAST_VJ] that runs using only 1 instance of Pd, consequently without audio and without the preview window. If [pd~] is indeed working equally on all systems, it will be a further step towards a single version for [ARRAST_VJ], which will also allow audio in WIndows.
As soon as I have time, I'll run new tests on Windows. I'm excited about your account of having managed to run the full version on Windows. By the way, what version of Windows and Pd are you using?
Bruno
2018-05-10 13:15 GMT-03:00 oliver oliver@klingt.org:
Bruno Rohde wrote:
Hello friends,
I introduce you to [ARRAST_VJ], a tool for live video mixing and mapping (with audio) developed with Pd Vanilla + GEM.
[ARRAST_VJ] was developed in the Linux operating system, in which all features work. Mac OS computers running GEM also run the full version. For Windows users, a "Light" version was created, without audio and with other small differences.
hi, bruno !
absolutely fantastic piece of work ! just tried it on windows and linux, everything works as expected ! great !
is there any reason the windows version doesn't officially support audio ? i gave the "full" version a try on my windows system anyway and it worked flawlessly with your test-video/audio !
obviously the [pix_share] objects don't work (they don't work on win32 but that is stated in their helpfile)
best
oliver
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Bruno Rohde wrote:
The reason for the Light version not to play audio is that audio and video playback needs to be performed on 2 instances of the Pd so as not to generate audio clicks as it does in the full version. At the time of development, the object [pd~], used to manage the two instances and their communication, presented a serious problem in Windows, because it was not possible to run a patch located in a path with spaces in the name, and this is standard in Windows (ex: C:/Program Files/). If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet.
makes sense, since when i'm on windows i always put PD as a standalone version (the .zip package, without installer) on a seperate partition and thus don't know about "space in names" issues ;-)
As soon as I have time, I'll run new tests on Windows. I'm excited about your account of having managed to run the full version on Windows. By the way, what version of Windows and Pd are you using?
Win 7 / 64bit PD 0.48.0 Gem 0.93.3
i also have a SSD in my laptop and i'm coming to believe that this is a crucial aspect considering Gem's and PD's performance.
so far i didn't have to use [pd~) to smoothly run audio AND video in the same instance of PD on my laptop (sometimes two HD movies and 3 soundfiles read from disk simultaneously !). i did however encounter those problems on computers using conventional harddisks. just my personal observation ...
so, running audio and video in seperate threads is definitely the safer way to go
best
oliver
makes sense, since when i'm on windows i always put PD as a standalone version (the .zip package, without installer) on a seperate partition and thus don't know about "space in names" issues ;-)
Good to know, I can possibly suggest this as a strategy for other interested Windows users.
i also have a SSD in my laptop and i'm coming to believe that this is a
crucial aspect considering Gem's and PD's performance. so far i didn't have to use [pd~) to smoothly run audio AND video in the same instance of PD on my laptop (sometimes two HD movies and 3 soundfiles read from disk simultaneously !). i did however encounter those problems on computers using conventional harddisks. just my personal observation ...
Thank you for the informations. I will soon install an SSD on my laptop as well.
Bruno
2018-05-10 15:49 GMT-03:00 oliver oliver@klingt.org:
Bruno Rohde wrote:
The reason for the Light version not to play audio is that audio and video
playback needs to be performed on 2 instances of the Pd so as not to generate audio clicks as it does in the full version. At the time of development, the object [pd~], used to manage the two instances and their communication, presented a serious problem in Windows, because it was not possible to run a patch located in a path with spaces in the name, and this is standard in Windows (ex: C:/Program Files/). If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet.
makes sense, since when i'm on windows i always put PD as a standalone version (the .zip package, without installer) on a seperate partition and thus don't know about "space in names" issues ;-)
As soon as I have time, I'll run new tests on Windows. I'm excited about your account of having managed to run the full version on Windows. By the way, what version of Windows and Pd are you using?
Win 7 / 64bit PD 0.48.0 Gem 0.93.3
i also have a SSD in my laptop and i'm coming to believe that this is a crucial aspect considering Gem's and PD's performance.
so far i didn't have to use [pd~) to smoothly run audio AND video in the same instance of PD on my laptop (sometimes two HD movies and 3 soundfiles read from disk simultaneously !). i did however encounter those problems on computers using conventional harddisks. just my personal observation ...
so, running audio and video in seperate threads is definitely the safer way to go
best
oliver
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Its working like a dream her eon my Linux 64 box with a freshly compiled version of GEM
my box is Dual Nvidia Quadros 64GB of RAM and 4TB SSD
Smooth!!
Patrick
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From: Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Bruno Rohde brunorohde@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:48 PM To: oliver Cc: pd-list@mail.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [ARRAST_VJ] - Pure Data/GEM Video Mixer/Mapper - www.arrastvj.org
makes sense, since when i'm on windows i always put PD as a standalone version (the .zip package, without installer) on a seperate partition and thus don't know about "space in names" issues ;-)
Good to know, I can possibly suggest this as a strategy for other interested Windows users.
i also have a SSD in my laptop and i'm coming to believe that this is a crucial aspect considering Gem's and PD's performance. so far i didn't have to use [pd~) to smoothly run audio AND video in the same instance of PD on my laptop (sometimes two HD movies and 3 soundfiles read from disk simultaneously !). i did however encounter those problems on computers using conventional harddisks. just my personal observation ...
Thank you for the informations. I will soon install an SSD on my laptop as well.
Bruno
2018-05-10 15:49 GMT-03:00 oliver <oliver@klingt.orgmailto:oliver@klingt.org>: Bruno Rohde wrote:
The reason for the Light version not to play audio is that audio and video playback needs to be performed on 2 instances of the Pd so as not to generate audio clicks as it does in the full version. At the time of development, the object [pd~], used to manage the two instances and their communication, presented a serious problem in Windows, because it was not possible to run a patch located in a path with spaces in the name, and this is standard in Windows (ex: C:/Program Files/). If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet.
makes sense, since when i'm on windows i always put PD as a standalone version (the .zip package, without installer) on a seperate partition and thus don't know about "space in names" issues ;-)
As soon as I have time, I'll run new tests on Windows. I'm excited about your account of having managed to run the full version on Windows. By the way, what version of Windows and Pd are you using?
Win 7 / 64bit PD 0.48.0 Gem 0.93.3
i also have a SSD in my laptop and i'm coming to believe that this is a crucial aspect considering Gem's and PD's performance.
so far i didn't have to use [pd~) to smoothly run audio AND video in the same instance of PD on my laptop (sometimes two HD movies and 3 soundfiles read from disk simultaneously !). i did however encounter those problems on computers using conventional harddisks. just my personal observation ...
so, running audio and video in seperate threads is definitely the safer way to go
best
oliver
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*Jarbas Jácome:*
Viva!! Congratulations! Long live to [ARRAST_VJ]
Valeu Jarbinhas! Abraço!
*Christof Ressi:*
the issue is still present in Pd 0.48.1 but this PR includes a fix: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/349.
Thanks for the info, Christof, I hope the next release of pd includes the fix.
*Patrick Pagano: *
Its working like a dream her eon my Linux 64 box with a freshly compiled
version of GEM
my box is Dual Nvidia Quadros 64GB of RAM and 4TB SSD
Thanks for the report, Patrick! It's great to see other people in the community testing and using this work! Nice setup. The [arrast] was made to be light, we already ran it satisfactorily on dual-core computers with 2 gb of ram. It was made to be useful mainly in didactic contexts, where students do not always have access to better machines, especially in public institutions here in Brazil.
I would like to take advantage of this email for an* important tip*: to access the inside of the main patch, *right-click on the [ARRAST_VJ] logo, then "open"*. All subpatches and main routines are commented on, and any questions I am available to clarify.
Thank you all for the interest!
Bruno
2018-05-10 21:28 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
2018-05-10 20:59 GMT-03:00 Pagano, Patrick patrick.pagano@uconn.edu:
4TB SSD
YIKES!!!
If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet.
the issue is still present in Pd 0.48.1 but this PR includes a fix: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/349.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Mai 2018 um 20:39 Uhr Von: "Bruno Rohde" brunorohde@gmail.com An: oliver oliver@klingt.org, pd-announce@lists.iem.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [ARRAST_VJ] - Pure Data/GEM Video Mixer/Mapper - www.arrastvj.org
Hello Oliver!
Thank you very much for the encouragement.
The reason for the Light version not to play audio is that audio and video playback needs to be performed on 2 instances of the Pd so as not to generate audio clicks as it does in the full version. At the time of development, the object [pd~], used to manage the two instances and their communication, presented a serious problem in Windows, because it was not possible to run a patch located in a path with spaces in the name, and this is standard in Windows (ex: C:/Program Files/). If I am not mistaken, in version 0.48.1 of Pd this issue of [pd~] has been solved, but I have not tested it yet. The other point was mentioned by you: Gem's [pix_share] object does not work on Windows, and it is fundamental in the current design of [ARRAST_VJ] with respect to the use of the camera, which has its image shared between the two instances through of [pix_share]. The choice made under these conditions was to create a version (Light) of [ARRAST_VJ] that runs using only 1 instance of Pd, consequently without audio and without the preview window. If [pd~] is indeed working equally on all systems, it will be a further step towards a single version for [ARRAST_VJ], which will also allow audio in WIndows.
As soon as I have time, I'll run new tests on Windows. I'm excited about your account of having managed to run the full version on Windows. By the way, what version of Windows and Pd are you using? Bruno 2018-05-10 13:15 GMT-03:00 oliver <oliver@klingt.org[mailto:oliver@klingt.org]>:Bruno Rohde wrote:Hello friends,
I introduce you to [ARRAST_VJ], a tool for live video mixing and mapping (with audio) developed with Pd Vanilla + GEM.
[ARRAST_VJ] was developed in the Linux operating system, in which all features work. Mac OS computers running GEM also run the full version. For Windows users, a "Light" version was created, without audio and with other small differences. hi, bruno !
absolutely fantastic piece of work ! just tried it on windows and linux, everything works as expected ! great !
is there any reason the windows version doesn't officially support audio ? i gave the "full" version a try on my windows system anyway and it worked flawlessly with your test-video/audio !
obviously the [pix_share] objects don't work (they don't work on win32 but that is stated in their helpfile)
best
oliver
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