pedro wrote:

hello

in the download page (http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html) it is stated that GEM has been included in the standalone (looking forward to pidip ;).

however when i try to instantiate GEM objects i get the following messages :

"error: gemwin: can't load abstraction within itself

"included" does not mean loading automatically: you have to load any library you want to use explicitly with something like "-lib Gem" at startup time, or creating an object [Gem] before(!) you create any other object (replace "Gem" by whatever library you want to load); most libs will give you some feedback at the console that they loaded fine (if so)

if you are having problems loading libraries, consider looking at the list-archives (this has been asked often) and also at the pd-faq.

mfg.asdr. IOhannes