Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!
thanks Benjamin
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you
get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So
far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the
mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am
pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
.hc
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, >------------------------------ wrote:
Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!
thanks Benjamin
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you
get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So
far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the
mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am
pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
not being a very active wikipedia user, i nevertheless seem to remember that they use captchas (yes indeed) for verification if (and only if- i think) you are adding URLs to a page. this makes spamming sites much less attractive.
i know that you are opposed to captchas, but i still think it is a good compromise between not having to create accounts and a reasonable protection against spam.
fgmadsr IOhannes
On Dec 19, 2008, at 5:51 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
not being a very active wikipedia user, i nevertheless seem to
remember that they use captchas (yes indeed) for verification if (and only
if- i think) you are adding URLs to a page. this makes spamming sites much less attractive.i know that you are opposed to captchas, but i still think it is a
good compromise between not having to create accounts and a reasonable protection against spam.
Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. I think it is hard to argue
with wikipedia's practice.
.hc
fgmadsr IOhannes
"It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we
don't have to examine our own lives.", from "The Idols of
Environmentalism", by Curtis White
On jeu, 2008-12-18 at 23:30 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you
get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So
far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the
mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am
pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
yes, it would be nice that one the admins protects at least the main page of the mediawiki as JérÎme Abel did on the French version. Works fine and it's just two clicks away.
.hc
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, >------------------------------ wrote:
Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!
thanks Benjamin
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On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
On jeu, 2008-12-18 at 23:30 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
yes, it would be nice that one the admins protects at least the main page of the mediawiki as Jérôme Abel did on the French version. Works fine and it's just two clicks away.
I don't think we have gotten spam on the main page, so it doesn't
need to be protected (yet?). As far as I know, wikipedia uses the
'protect' feature as a temporary measure.
.hc
.hc
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, >------------------------------ wrote:
Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!
thanks Benjamin
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It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war
on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
On dim, 2008-12-21 at 11:29 -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
On jeu, 2008-12-18 at 23:30 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit, then you get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to delete. So far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.
yes, it would be nice that one the admins protects at least the main page of the mediawiki as JérÎme Abel did on the French version. Works fine and it's just two clicks away.
I don't think we have gotten spam on the main page, so it doesn't
need to be protected (yet?). As far as I know, wikipedia uses the
'protect' feature as a temporary measure..hc
See for yourself: 15 edits between benjah's last one on 18th and mine tonight
http://wiki.puredata.info/mediapool/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&actio... ++ O.
.hc
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, >------------------------------ wrote:
Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!
thanks Benjamin
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Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic.
It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war
on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
On Dec 24, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
On dim, 2008-12-21 at 11:29 -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
On jeu, 2008-12-18 at 23:30 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
If you switch to forcing users to register in order to edit,
then you get spam bots creating user accounts, which are harder to
delete. So far, it does not take much work to delete the spam using the mediawiki admin tools ("delete", "protect", "watch", etc.) I am pretty sure that is how it is done on wikipedia.yes, it would be nice that one the admins protects at least the main page of the mediawiki as Jérôme Abel did on the French version.
Works fine and it's just two clicks away.I don't think we have gotten spam on the main page, so it doesn't need to be protected (yet?). As far as I know, wikipedia uses the 'protect' feature as a temporary measure.
.hc
See for yourself: 15 edits between benjah's last one on 18th and mine tonight
http://wiki.puredata.info/mediapool/index.php? title=Talk:Main_Page&action=history ++ O.
Ah yeah, FYI that link is not the Main Page, but the Talk page for
the Main Page, which is technically a different page. And I just
realized these are in 'mediapool' section, so I guess we can't say
"THE" main page, since each language has a main page.
There was indeed lots of spam there, in fact that page ws only ever
spam, it never had content. That's easy to handle, just use the
"delete" tab, it even removes it from the "Recent Changes". If a
page is only spam, then the "delete" option is perfect.
http://wiki.puredata.info/mediapool/index.php? title=Special:Recentchanges&limit=500&days=30
I am not opposed to trying other spam measures. But I do think we
should try the built-in tools first. I think IOhannes' sounded worth
trying: a captcha only for edits with links in them. Any volunteers
to set them up?
.hc
.hc
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:08 AM, >------------------------------
wrote:Hi,
we are working on french PdPedia and the english version has been spammed today after we cleaned somes pages so would it be possible to allow only registered user to edit
on the pdpedia wiki (urgent), and would it be possible to add a
captcha to register (maybe later) ? let's fight against bot !!!thanks Benjamin
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