Howdy MIller,
Just a couple notes after checking the test2 build:
On my macOS 11.6.1 system, the test2 build with Tk 8.6.12 seems to work fine, generally. Wheew! *wipes brow* The list atom and individual element editing is great. I like the [file] implementation: light wrapper on the POSIX api.
# Help Browser
The right-most pane seems to have an update/refresh issue. It flashes to the background before redrawing and disappears if you navigate with the keys in one of the left-hand panes. I can look into this.
Also, I found that certain keybindings generate errors (not no TCL crashes), ex. undo.redo CMD+Z, etc.
# gatoms
Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing enter or escape would defocus, but it doesn't. Is this new behavior? This also makes the behavior different form that of the IEM GUIs.
Also, it seems the focus highlight will stay if you double click to edit an atom which highlights the text, then click on another atom.
# Keybindings
I also agree that MOD+4 should remain as symbol atom and list atom can use MOD+6. I imagine the reasoning is that list atom can work with symbols so it's a decent replacement anyway, but I think this works against established muscle memory for some of us. OTOH I changed the HRadio keybinding from MOD+H to MOD+J so it could consistent on all platforms and we survived (CMD+H on macOS hides the window and is not overridable, oops!)...
On Nov 23, 2021, at 7:27 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:06:02 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com> To: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Oh and I forgot:
# Active Patch Cable Highlight
I think greying out the active patch cable is great. I agree with calls for making this an option (on or off) in the GUI, but maybe this is something best added to IOhannes' current work on updating the (tabbed) preferences?
On Nov 24, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy MIller,
Just a couple notes after checking the test2 build:
On my macOS 11.6.1 system, the test2 build with Tk 8.6.12 seems to work fine, generally. Wheew! *wipes brow* The list atom and individual element editing is great. I like the [file] implementation: light wrapper on the POSIX api.
# Help Browser
The right-most pane seems to have an update/refresh issue. It flashes to the background before redrawing and disappears if you navigate with the keys in one of the left-hand panes. I can look into this.
Also, I found that certain keybindings generate errors (not no TCL crashes), ex. undo.redo CMD+Z, etc.
# gatoms
Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing enter or escape would defocus, but it doesn't. Is this new behavior? This also makes the behavior different form that of the IEM GUIs.
Also, it seems the focus highlight will stay if you double click to edit an atom which highlights the text, then click on another atom.
# Keybindings
I also agree that MOD+4 should remain as symbol atom and list atom can use MOD+6. I imagine the reasoning is that list atom can work with symbols so it's a decent replacement anyway, but I think this works against established muscle memory for some of us. OTOH I changed the HRadio keybinding from MOD+H to MOD+J so it could consistent on all platforms and we survived (CMD+H on macOS hides the window and is not overridable, oops!)...
On Nov 23, 2021, at 7:27 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:06:02 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com> To: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later.
M
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh and I forgot:
# Active Patch Cable Highlight
I think greying out the active patch cable is great. I agree with calls for making this an option (on or off) in the GUI, but maybe this is something best added to IOhannes' current work on updating the (tabbed) preferences?
## Inactive Patch Coords
I think it should be on by default as I imagine more people could use it but it should have a disable option somehow for those that don't. I might be wrong in thinking that they are a minority though. Maybe there could be some sort of experimental feature commanding flag that accepts strings ala:
pd -exp disable-inactive-patchcords
Internally, then new versions of Pd could update the matched strings and ignore those which are either removed or upgraded to non-experimental status in new versions.
## Single-Select Drag & Resize Paper Cut
Also, here is a "paper-cut" bug fix that might be good to check out. I updated the original PR in a new branch and did some testing. The behavior appears to work fine and is an improvement, although I would admit to not having noticed before. ;)
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1484 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1484
On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later.
M
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh and I forgot:
# Active Patch Cable Highlight
I think greying out the active patch cable is great. I agree with calls for making this an option (on or off) in the GUI, but maybe this is something best added to IOhannes' current work on updating the (tabbed) preferences?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika http://twitter.com/danomatika danomatika.com http://danomatika.com/ robotcowboy.com http://robotcowboy.com/
Hmm.. I just finished fixing it to leave it turned off by default (it bothers some people and pleases others, so the tiebreaker is to default to previous behavior).
Meanwhile merging the no-select-text PR - I meant to do that earlier but somehow missed it.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 12:25:41AM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
## Inactive Patch Coords
I think it should be on by default as I imagine more people could use it but it should have a disable option somehow for those that don't. I might be wrong in thinking that they are a minority though. Maybe there could be some sort of experimental feature commanding flag that accepts strings ala:
pd -exp disable-inactive-patchcords
Internally, then new versions of Pd could update the matched strings and ignore those which are either removed or upgraded to non-experimental status in new versions.
## Single-Select Drag & Resize Paper Cut
Also, here is a "paper-cut" bug fix that might be good to check out. I updated the original PR in a new branch and did some testing. The behavior appears to work fine and is an improvement, although I would admit to not having noticed before. ;)
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_... <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_... >
On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later.
M
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh and I forgot:
# Active Patch Cable Highlight
I think greying out the active patch cable is great. I agree with calls for making this an option (on or off) in the GUI, but maybe this is something best added to IOhannes' current work on updating the (tabbed) preferences?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_danomatika&a... > danomatika.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__danomatika.com_&d=Dw... > robotcowboy.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__robotcowboy.com_&d=D... >
Hey, since the new release fixes many issues we had with labels in iemguis, I'd like to also suggest this one as well, that also allows us to set labels with floats https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1082
now, if you set a float as a label, it gets truncated to integers, this fixes it!
cheers
Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 20:51, Miller Puckette via Pd-list < pd-list@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
Hmm.. I just finished fixing it to leave it turned off by default (it bothers some people and pleases others, so the tiebreaker is to default to previous behavior).
Meanwhile merging the no-select-text PR - I meant to do that earlier but somehow missed it.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 12:25:41AM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
## Inactive Patch Coords
I think it should be on by default as I imagine more people could use it
but it should have a disable option somehow for those that don't. I might be wrong in thinking that they are a minority though. Maybe there could be some sort of experimental feature commanding flag that accepts strings ala:
pd -exp disable-inactive-patchcords
Internally, then new versions of Pd could update the matched strings and
ignore those which are either removed or upgraded to non-experimental status in new versions.
## Single-Select Drag & Resize Paper Cut
Also, here is a "paper-cut" bug fix that might be good to check out. I
updated the original PR in a new branch and did some testing. The behavior appears to work fine and is an improvement, although I would admit to not having noticed before. ;)
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_... < https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_...
On Nov 27, 2021, at 11:36 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later.
M
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Oh and I forgot:
# Active Patch Cable Highlight
I think greying out the active patch cable is great. I agree with
calls for making this an option (on or off) in the GUI, but maybe this is something best added to IOhannes' current work on updating the (tabbed) preferences?
Dan Wilcox @danomatika <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__twitter.com_danomatika&a...
danomatika.com <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__danomatika.com_&d=Dw...
robotcowboy.com <
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__robotcowboy.com_&d=D...
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On 11/24/2021 5:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
# gatoms
Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing enter or escape would defocus, but it doesn't. Is this new behavior? This also makes the behavior different form that of the IEM GUIs.
Also, it seems the focus highlight will stay if you double click to edit an atom which highlights the text, then click on another atom.
@Dan,
There were some latest changes on "develop". Please check on macOS.
:)
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hey, release notes says "libpd included as part of the Pd distribution. A test libpd project is included in ../pd/libpdtest." but I can't find this.
Em qua., 24 de nov. de 2021 às 21:38, Lucas Cordiviola < lucarda27@hotmail.com> escreveu:
On 11/24/2021 5:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
# gatoms
Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing enter or escape would defocus, but it doesn't. Is this new behavior? This also makes the behavior different form that of the IEM GUIs.
Also, it seems the focus highlight will stay if you double click to edit an atom which highlights the text, then click on another atom.
@Dan,
There were some latest changes on "develop". Please check on macOS.
:)
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Oops, fixed now, thanks. On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 12:34:39AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
hey, release notes says "libpd included as part of the Pd distribution. A test libpd project is included in ../pd/libpdtest." but I can't find this.
Em qua., 24 de nov. de 2021 Ã s 21:38, Lucas Cordiviola < lucarda27@hotmail.com> escreveu:
On 11/24/2021 5:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote:
# gatoms
Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing enter or escape would defocus, but it doesn't. Is this new behavior? This also makes the behavior different form that of the IEM GUIs.
Also, it seems the focus highlight will stay if you double click to edit an atom which highlights the text, then click on another atom.
@Dan,
There were some latest changes on "develop". Please check on macOS.
:)
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