----- "Mathieu Bouchard" matju@artengine.ca a écrit :
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, patko wrote:
"Too much elaborated" would mean that it follow a kind of elitistic
way
of doing things, like keeping a code undocumented, but in fact I was
more thinking about the build system when I wrote this sentence.
If you have questions about the build system you should ask them. You
don't get documentation without a target audience. Who is the target audience and what do they want in the documentation ?
I might be mistaken about purposes of a software like puredata, it seem to drive the user into the deepness of codes that makes a DSP software, and it's great. Anyone that want to go deeper ends up by installing a build system for getting the last version, (because of a little bug or a missing object), let's not talk about autobuilds, the version proposed in this directory is quite different from official extended version, that is different from vanilla version.
The target audience are also people that makes externals. They need a documented externals/Makefile. They are also the people that don't particulary want to have their folder in sourceforge, but that would eventually use svn to download pd build system and add their files for having a right build system to make their own external, but doesn't want to share it because they feel it's not ready enough, because they don't want to add more bogus objects to svn.
How much money do I have to make with it before it becomes a
profession
and a professional tool ? Do I have to wear a tie ?
It's not about of money, it's about uses in a professionnal
context,
What is a professional context, if not about money ?
Professionals uses to pay taxes.
most of pd users have choosen this tool because it's free and has a
lot
of possibilities, but it doesn't offer quality and stability that a
professionnal tool is supposed to have,
who says a professional tool is supposed to have that ? what's that "quality" thing ?
Professional tools maintainers pay taxes.
for me artistic activities is not in this context, or the art is
dead.
Can you elaborate on that ? Sounds interesting... How would you define "dead" ?
"Industrial" is the word that comes to my mind, deadly industrial art, with no freedom of expression, valuable people only would work, because they have a diploma, not because they are good at what they are doing.
Até breve,
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, patko wrote:
I might be mistaken about purposes of a software like puredata, it seem to drive the user into the deepness of codes that makes a DSP software, and it's great. Anyone that want to go deeper ends up by installing a build system for getting the last version, (because of a little bug or a missing object), let's not talk about autobuilds, the version proposed in this directory is quite different from official extended version, that is different from vanilla version.
You are driven into that. Do not confuse yourself with how other people would use PureData. Most of my students wouldn't customise PureData beyond putting a library in ~/pd-externals or /Library/Pd.
What is a professional context, if not about money ?
Professionals uses to pay taxes.
Can you rewrite that so that I can be sure of what you're trying to say ?
who says a professional tool is supposed to have that ? what's that "quality" thing ?
Professional tools maintainers pay taxes.
Are you kidding me ?
What if I get a big enough tax deduction, from the Buzzword Development Programme of Industry Canada, or the Ministère des cadeaux aux amis du parti libéral du Québec, or Projet immobilier de la Cité des Interwebs de Montréal, and suppose that in whichever combination, the above make me pay no income tax and no sales tax on added value. Can I still be a professional ?
How would you define "dead" ?
"Industrial" is the word that comes to my mind, deadly industrial art,
What about industrial music now ?
Deadly industrial art ? does art kill ?
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