# Hello list, # I was seeking an preset/load/save mechanism in Pd and came to the wonderful rradical project. After I read its page http://goto10.org/-/rradicalpd.html I immediately tried its example patches in pd/doc/examples/rradical. But I encounter with an ruthless error:
Error signature AppName: pd.exe ModName: msvcrt.dll ModVer: 7.0.2600.2180 Offset: 00037ab4
every time and Pd crashed. # I'm using Windows Xp, and tried these patches with both pd-extended 0.38.4and 0.39.2. Do you have any idea why this error occurs, and how to overcome it? -ugur guney-
# Now I realized that same error comes when opening an "ix" patch.
Hallo, sokratesla hat gesagt: // sokratesla wrote:
# I was seeking an preset/load/save mechanism in Pd and came to the wonderful rradical project. After I read its page http://goto10.org/-/rradicalpd.html I immediately tried its example patches in pd/doc/examples/rradical. But I encounter with an ruthless error:
Error signature AppName: pd.exe ModName: msvcrt.dll ModVer: 7.0.2600.2180 Offset: 00037ab4
every time and Pd crashed. # I'm using Windows Xp, and tried these patches with both pd-extended 0.38.4and 0.39.2. Do you have any idea why this error occurs, and how to overcome it?
# Now I realized that same error comes when opening an "ix" patch.
RRADical crashes often are related to the wrong [prepend] object being loaded. It has to be the one from Cyclone, until I remove all occurences of [prepend] and replace them with [list prepend].
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
# [prepend] have two inlets.
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
# [pool] and [originator] objects has been created without crashes too.
# I played with the help files. I run "memento-help.pd" and, there, if I change a parameter in commun-help or originator-help Pd had crashed.
# by right-clicking and selecting help, different patches opened for [prepend] and [list prepend] # help-prepend.pd is in pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib (not in Cyclone) and there is an unloading object in that help patch [iem_prepend_kernel]. -ugur-
On 6/22/06, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
Hallo, sokratesla hat gesagt: // sokratesla wrote:
# I was seeking an preset/load/save mechanism in Pd and came to the wonderful rradical project. After I read its page http://goto10.org/-/rradicalpd.html I immediately tried its example
patches
in pd/doc/examples/rradical. But I encounter with an ruthless error:
Error signature AppName: pd.exe ModName: msvcrt.dll ModVer: 7.0.2600.2180 Offset: 00037ab4
every time and Pd crashed. # I'm using Windows Xp, and tried these patches with both pd-extended 0.38.4and 0.39.2. Do you have any idea why this error occurs, and how to overcome
it?
# Now I realized that same error comes when opening an "ix" patch.
RRADical crashes often are related to the wrong [prepend] object being loaded. It has to be the one from Cyclone, until I remove all occurences of [prepend] and replace them with [list prepend].
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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Hallo, sokratesla hat gesagt: // sokratesla wrote:
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
# [prepend] have two inlets.
That's not the Cyclone-prepend, which only has one inlet.
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
# [pool] and [originator] objects has been created without crashes too.
# I played with the help files. I run "memento-help.pd" and, there, if I change a parameter in commun-help or originator-help Pd had crashed.
# by right-clicking and selecting help, different patches opened for [prepend] and [list prepend] # help-prepend.pd is in pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib (not in Cyclone) and there is an unloading object in that help patch [iem_prepend_kernel].
Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE, the iem-prepend works differently as expected by RRADical, but normally it doesn't crash. You may want to check, if you have more prepend.dll files somewhere.
To fix this issue quickly, you could also try to not load iemlib as a library or load the Cyclone-library, if you have it, first. For that check File->Startup for any occurences of IEMlib or ggee and put "-lib cyclone" on top.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
# I searched: there are prepend.dll's in cxc and cyclone. iem-lib has prepend_kernel.dll and prepend_ascii.dll. # I removed the cxc and iem-libs from start up. Now, prepend is created with one argument by default. But it seems that [prepend] does not works. How I sensed that: in the help patch pd/doc/5.reference/cyclone/prepend.pd when I clicked on that message boxes, nothing happens. # and I created this patch (although I don't know its right use of [prepend])
|a_message( | [prepend] | [print]
# And this crashed when I clicked on the message box. (But when [prepend] does not be connected to [print], PD does not crashes) -ugur-
On 6/23/06, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
Hallo, sokratesla hat gesagt: // sokratesla wrote:
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
# [prepend] have two inlets.
That's not the Cyclone-prepend, which only has one inlet.
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
# [pool] and [originator] objects has been created without crashes too.
# I played with the help files. I run "memento-help.pd" and, there, if I change a parameter in commun-help or originator-help Pd had crashed.
# by right-clicking and selecting help, different patches opened for [prepend] and [list prepend] # help-prepend.pd is in pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib (not in Cyclone) and
there
is an unloading object in that help patch [iem_prepend_kernel].
Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE, the iem-prepend works differently as expected by RRADical, but normally it doesn't crash. You may want to check, if you have more prepend.dll files somewhere.
To fix this issue quickly, you could also try to not load iemlib as a library or load the Cyclone-library, if you have it, first. For that check File->Startup for any occurences of IEMlib or ggee and put "-lib cyclone" on top.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE,
.. which has been removed from the build system years ago. Remember that when this object was written there has been no other prepend around, and pd was in its early stages, so it is likely that the API changed or whatever. Anyhow, I will try to figure out if and why it is included in pd-extended.
Günter
the iem-prepend works differently as expected by RRADical, but normally it doesn't crash. You may want to check, if you have more prepend.dll files somewhere.
To fix this issue quickly, you could also try to not load iemlib as a library or load the Cyclone-library, if you have it, first. For that check File->Startup for any occurences of IEMlib or ggee and put "-lib cyclone" on top.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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On Jun 22, 2006, at 11:03 PM, geiger wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in
all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE,.. which has been removed from the build system years ago. Remember
that when this object was written there has been no other prepend around, and pd was in its early stages, so it is likely that the API
changed or whatever. Anyhow, I will try to figure out if and why it is included in pd- extended.
There is no prepend source file in externals/ggee so its not in Pd- extended.
.hc
Günter
the iem-prepend works differently as expected by RRADical, but normally it doesn't crash. You may want to check, if you have more prepend.dll files somewhere.
To fix this issue quickly, you could also try to not load iemlib as a library or load the Cyclone-library, if you have it, first. For
that check File->Startup for any occurences of IEMlib or ggee and put "-lib cyclone" on top.Ciao
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Hallo, geiger hat gesagt: // geiger wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE,
.. which has been removed from the build system years ago. Remember that when this object was written there has been no other prepend around, and pd was in its early stages, so it is likely that the API changed or whatever. Anyhow, I will try to figure out if and why it is included in pd-extended.
Well, it might also be the cxc.prepend, that leads to crashes. It's not your fault at all, but from the reports I got regarding RRADical crashes, it's often a wrong [prepend] that's causing them, wherever this comes from. Many people, me included, have old externals somewhere in their Pd-path, so it's probably not a packaging problem either.
I plan to remove [prepend] from the RRADical patches for quite a while now. There is no need for a prepend external anymore anyways IMO, except for things from the past.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, sokratesla hat gesagt: // sokratesla wrote:
If you create a prepend object, how many inlets does it have?
# [prepend] have two inlets.
That's not the Cyclone-prepend, which only has one inlet.
Cyclone's prepend has two inlets if its instantiated without any
arguments. Try [cyclone/prepend] on Pd-extended for an example.
To rule out other errors, you may also try, if you can create [pool] properly, then also see, if you can create an [originator] object without crashes
# [pool] and [originator] objects has been created without crashes
too.# I played with the help files. I run "memento-help.pd" and,
there, if I change a parameter in commun-help or originator-help Pd had crashed.# by right-clicking and selecting help, different patches opened for [prepend] and [list prepend] # help-prepend.pd is in pd/doc/5.reference/iemlib (not in Cyclone)
and there is an unloading object in that help patch [iem_prepend_kernel].Well, I guess it's overdue to do finally get rid of [prepend] in
all of RRADical. Normally the crashes only come with the [prepend] of GGEE, the iem-prepend works differently as expected by RRADical, but normally it doesn't crash. You may want to check, if you have more prepend.dll files somewhere.To fix this issue quickly, you could also try to not load iemlib as a library or load the Cyclone-library, if you have it, first. For
that check File->Startup for any occurences of IEMlib or ggee and put "-lib cyclone" on top.
If its the standard Pd-extended config, then cyclone's prepend will
be used by default.
.hc
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