Hi, I have been running HC's PD 0.38.04 Extended RC-7 for some time
and its been performing like a DREAM! Two days ago I installed PD
0.39.2 extended test 3. Since then both versions have meed performing
very poorly (at least in comparison to before). In the past, when
there has been an issue like this I have been able to go back and use
the older version. Unlike before, the older version perform just as
bad. Also when doing pix_grabs the whole machine stutters (Finder as
well as PD). I have zapped the P ram without any success. It appears
as the machine is freezing up while the Gem window does its stuff,
like the pipes are blocked. Is there anything I can do to fix it? In
General 10.4.6 is really shit, and Im not allowed to downgrade to
10.4.5. Any suggestions are WELCOME!
Thanks Timon.
both versions have meed performing very poorly the older version perform just as bad the whole machine stutters (Finder as well as PD) It appears as the machine is freezing up like the pipes are blocked.
these are all known issues. Mac OS X is 2-5 times slower than linux for IPC, syscalls, thread process and socket creation, and additionaly has extremely course locking for IO and network operations which causes stuttering and poor performance all around..
for more reading on this, see: http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000385.html http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520
Is there anything I can do to fix it?
install Linux. Gentoo and Ubuntu are nice choices. on a PPC mac, YellowDog is also well pre-tweaked and supported for the hardware...
or hang in there and hope apple seriously reworks their kernel in 10.6.. maybe porting their IOKit to FreeBSD or Linux..theres a chance of this now that Avie has resigned (if he even cared about keeping the old architecture at this point).
In General 10.4.6 is really shit, and Im not allowed to downgrade to 10.4.5. Any suggestions are WELCOME!
i hear you. i was a mac user for all of my life ever since being in awe of Brickles on a SE/30 in 5th grade and an Apple user since my generous grandparents bought me and my brother an Apple //gs in the late 80s but had to switch to commodity PC hardware running win32 and linux when OSX came out, due to the huge performance loss and no real usability gain of OSX, not to mention paying twice the market rate for hardware for the privilege of this...
On 5/11/06, carmen ix@replic.net wrote:
both versions have meed performing very poorly the older version perform just as bad the whole machine stutters (Finder as well as PD) It appears as the machine is freezing up like the pipes are blocked.
these are all known issues. Mac OS X is 2-5 times slower than linux for IPC, syscalls, thread process and socket creation, and additionaly has extremely course locking for IO and network operations which causes stuttering and poor performance all around..
for more reading on this, see: http://www.drunkenblog.com/drunkenblog-archives/000385.html http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2520
None of those issues are particularly relevant to Pd though. Anand's site is particularly well stocked with idiots and those articles prove it.
A real possible issue is the pthread hack that needs to be addressed and/or removed entirely from the Pd code. That will for sure cause bad behavior on OSX, especially when running GEM at high CPU load on a single processor machine.
There are answers and then there is empty rhetoric. Take you pick.
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