Hi, I've been working this year on a new library called "ELSE", this first beta release, and it is up in deken for Windows, Mac and Windows. Here's my repository github.com/porres/pd-else
It has 134 objects as of now, and I plan to keep adding more until the stable release. It is a multi purpose / swiss army knife library, with basic building blocks for patching, such as oscillators, filters, etc... it is strongly oriented towards sample accuracy, so you can trigger objects with impulses and gates. SuperCollider is also like that, so I stole a bunch stuff and ideas from their objects.
My idea is to heavily rely on it and in cyclone to patch the examples in my didactic material - that I've been developing for 9 years.
I'm presenting a paper tomorrow about it here in São Paulo, Brazil, at SBCM ( http://compmus.ime.usp.br/sbcm/2017/ ). Here's the paper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AoiT0xk8fnUmxqZ0MtNlptNHM/view?usp=sharin...
An object list with objects listed by category => https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/72ad687ad3b85514be5cf9f6babf102c73b97...
Any feedback is welcome
Thanks
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On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 22:10 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Hi, I've been working this year on a new library called "ELSE", this first beta release, and it is up in deken for Windows, Mac and Windows. Here's my repository github.com/porres/pd-else
Cool. I just had a glance and there is lots of useful stuff. Thanks for sharing and putting everything so nicely together.
My input: Please think of the users with case-sensitive filesystems and decide on a name (ELSE, else, Else, ElSe or whatever). Now, you announce it as 'ELSE', but the repo is called 'pd-else', while the meta-file is named 'ELSE-meta.pd'.
Roman
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
thanks
2017-09-06 10:10 GMT-03:00 Matt Davey hard.off@gmail.com:
wow, looks great!
Is there a licence? Sorry i couldn't find it.
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On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 10:39 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
Hm... I seem unable to find anything about the SIBSD license. Please include a copy of the license text or at least provide a link.
Roman
well, I just copied that from somewhere else (don't even remember, maybe cyclone?), but I should be honest here and just ask, cause I have no clue about licenses, and I really don't care, this should be as free and open as possible, people should do whatever they want with it. So which is the license I'm looking for?
thanks
2017-09-06 11:00 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com:
On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 10:39 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
Hm... I seem unable to find anything about the SIBSD license. Please include a copy of the license text or at least provide a link.
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On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 11:19 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
well, I just copied that from somewhere else (don't even remember, maybe cyclone?), but I should be honest here and just ask, cause I have no clue about licenses, and I really don't care, this should be as free and open as possible, people should do whatever they want with it. So which is the license I'm looking for?
Everyone who distributes software has to deal with it at list a tiny bit. Your criteria doesn't match a specific license. I think what you want to (or at least should) ask is: "Do I want a permissive license or a copyleft license?"
Read about it yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_software_licence
Cheers Roman
here's a copy of PD's license.
seems to be the "3 clause BSD license"
if you want your code to share that same license, maybe a good idea to just include that text (but change "Miller Puckette" to your own name ;)
On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 17:03 +0200, Matt Davey wrote:
here's a copy of PD's license.
seems to be the "3 clause BSD license"
if you want your code to share that same license, maybe a good idea to just include that text (but change "Miller Puckette" to your own name ;)
Now it becomes apparent what the 'SI' means in SIBSD: "Standard Improved"
Roman
if you want to make it as open as possible, make it public domain :-D. but seriously: I guess what you're looking for is either the MIT license or 3-clause BSD license (also used by Pd itself)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 um 16:19 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "Roman Haefeli" reduzent@gmail.com Cc: "PD List" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 1st Beta release of "ELSE" Library
well, I just copied that from somewhere else (don't even remember, maybe cyclone?), but I should be honest here and just ask, cause I have no clue about licenses, and I really don't care, this should be as free and open as possible, people should do whatever they want with it. So which is the license I'm looking for? thanks 2017-09-06 11:00 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com[mailto:reduzent@gmail.com]>:On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 10:39 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
Hm... I seem unable to find anything about the SIBSD license. Please include a copy of the license text or at least provide a link.
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thanks, anyway, what I should say is that I'll check it out and make sure this is sorted and clear when the oficial final release is done. Just remember this is still an experimental release. In any case, just know that I'm not considering at all making this a restrictive license.
2017-09-06 12:25 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi christof.ressi@gmx.at:
if you want to make it as open as possible, make it public domain :-D. but seriously: I guess what you're looking for is either the MIT license or 3-clause BSD license (also used by Pd itself)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 um 16:19 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "Roman Haefeli" reduzent@gmail.com Cc: "PD List" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 1st Beta release of "ELSE" Library
well, I just copied that from somewhere else (don't even remember, maybe cyclone?), but I should be honest here and just ask, cause I have no clue about licenses, and I really don't care, this should be as free and open as possible, people should do whatever they want with it. So which is the license I'm looking for?
thanks
2017-09-06 11:00 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com[mailto:red uzent@gmail.com]>:On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 10:39 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
Hm... I seem unable to find anything about the SIBSD license. Please include a copy of the license text or at least provide a link.
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Thank you for all this work Alexandre. The paper really clearly states your intentions and documents the ELSE library well. I'm very much looking forward to playing with all these new objects.
best Richie
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 at 3:41 am, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
thanks, anyway, what I should say is that I'll check it out and make sure this is sorted and clear when the oficial final release is done. Just remember this is still an experimental release. In any case, just know that I'm not considering at all making this a restrictive license.
2017-09-06 12:25 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi christof.ressi@gmx.at:
if you want to make it as open as possible, make it public domain :-D. but seriously: I guess what you're looking for is either the MIT license or 3-clause BSD license (also used by Pd itself)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 um 16:19 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "Roman Haefeli" reduzent@gmail.com Cc: "PD List" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 1st Beta release of "ELSE" Library
well, I just copied that from somewhere else (don't even remember, maybe cyclone?), but I should be honest here and just ask, cause I have no clue about licenses, and I really don't care, this should be as free and open as possible, people should do whatever they want with it. So which is the license I'm looking for?
thanks
2017-09-06 11:00 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com[mailto: reduzent@gmail.com]>:On Mit, 2017-09-06 at 10:39 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
I put a license remark inside "meta", but not that I really know anything about licenses :)
Hm... I seem unable to find anything about the SIBSD license. Please include a copy of the license text or at least provide a link.
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I think of it as being "ELSE" officially, but it made the folder as "else", cause it seems to be the best or correct way of doing it. I guess I'll just have the meta as "else-meta.pd" then, thanks
2017-09-06 9:37 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli reduzent@gmail.com:
On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 22:10 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Hi, I've been working this year on a new library called "ELSE", this first beta release, and it is up in deken for Windows, Mac and Windows. Here's my repository github.com/porres/pd-else
Cool. I just had a glance and there is lots of useful stuff. Thanks for sharing and putting everything so nicely together.
My input: Please think of the users with case-sensitive filesystems and decide on a name (ELSE, else, Else, ElSe or whatever). Now, you announce it as 'ELSE', but the repo is called 'pd-else', while the meta-file is named 'ELSE-meta.pd'.
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