hi,
before we(i) start to findout how to get that "tk scaling" to work on all pd "objects", i made a little tk script to test that feature.
i hope many people (on many os) try this, so we (or atleast i) can be sure that this feature would/could "fix" our font size issues..
so, the more the marrier :)
here we go:
get the script from here: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/tkscaling-test1.tk it needs also this gif in the same directory http://osku.de/pd/tst01/courier10pix.gif
then run the script, i dont know how (or what you need) to run this tk script on windows or osx. so anyone who knows, please post. on linux: "./tkscaling-test1.tk" or "wish tkscaling-test1.tk" (i assume you have tcl/tk installed ;)
then make a screenshot of that app running and name it "yournameornick-TST01.filetype" heres mine: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude-TST01.png
and then IF your text is NOT the same size as in the displayed gif on the bottom of the app, open the "tkscaling-test1.tk" (its a plain textfile), uncomment the line "#tk scaling 1.00" and play with the value until your text is same size as in the gif. then make a screenie again and name it "yournameornick-TST01-tks.filetype" heres mine: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude-TST01-tks.png
then mail the image(s) to me, and ill make a webgallery to study.
Thank You.
font agent ;) andre "oskude" schmidt
ps. heres allso my laptop: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude2-TST01.png
Hi ...
then run the script, i dont know how (or what you need) to run this tk script on windows or
quite easy: there is a wish8x.exe in the bin directory of the pd installation, with the value of x depending on the pd version. just run wish8x.exe tkscaling-test1.tk (assuming that you saved the patch in the same directory), and you're set.
And while we're at it: I admit that I'm a fan of rather large font sizes - especially as long as we use the font that pd (or, for that matter, tcl/tk) uses atm. have a look at your gif: the lines of the lower case "a" are too close to each other, the vertical lines of the "m" are only 1 pixel wide, and the serifs are taking up valuable space while making thw whole thing harder to read. Your example looks okay on windozes when no scaling is applied - i.e., when the relevant line in your script is commented out. tcl/tk applies a scaling factor of roughly 1.33 in this case, anyway. Maybe we should also think about changing the default font. I do believe that getting rid of the serifs would increase readability a lot ... What do you think about a sans-serif font that scales nicely? something like arial / lucida console / tahoma / verdana on the win platform? I'm well aware of the fact that we cannot just use these fonts, but maybe there's something similar in the public domain ...
with kind regards (and thank you for your efforts), thoralf.
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Here's mine from my PowerBook running MacOSX 10.3.9
The font heights are the same in pixels, but they look different for
what ever reason.
.hc
On Nov 24, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Andre Schmidt wrote:
hi,
before we(i) start to findout how to get that "tk scaling" to work on all pd "objects", i made a little tk script to test that feature.
i hope many people (on many os) try this, so we (or atleast i) can be sure that this feature would/could "fix" our font size issues..
so, the more the marrier :)
here we go:
get the script from here: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/tkscaling-test1.tk it needs also this gif in the same directory http://osku.de/pd/tst01/courier10pix.gif
then run the script, i dont know how (or what you need) to run this tk script on windows or osx. so anyone who knows, please post. on linux: "./tkscaling-test1.tk" or "wish tkscaling-test1.tk" (i assume you have tcl/tk installed ;)
then make a screenshot of that app running and name it "yournameornick-TST01.filetype" heres mine: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude-TST01.png
and then IF your text is NOT the same size as in the displayed gif on the bottom of the app, open the "tkscaling-test1.tk" (its a plain textfile), uncomment the line "#tk scaling 1.00" and play with the
value until your text is same size as in the gif. then make a screenie again and name it "yournameornick-TST01-tks.filetype" heres mine: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude-TST01-tks.pngthen mail the image(s) to me, and ill make a webgallery to study.
Thank You.
font agent ;) andre "oskude" schmidt
ps. heres allso my laptop: http://osku.de/pd/tst01/oskude2-TST01.png
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