Hi all, trying to use [list-normalize], which relies on [list-abs] in turn and I keep getting 'couldn't create' messages (caused by the object list-abs). I'm on OS X 10.6.8 w/ Pd-xtended 0.43 (and 0.42 too). I've tried it on Win7 + Ubuntu as well but to no avail. I've checked that the externals are loaded. Any thoughts? All the best, Rich Rich Duckworth Lecturer in Music Technology Department of Music House 5 Trinity College Dublin 2 Ireland
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You'll need to enable the library. There are numerous ways to do that.
- [list-abs/list-normalize].
- [import list-abs]
- [declare -lib list-abs] (will require you to reload the patch)
- You can start pd with: pd -lib list-abs
- Add paths and libraries in pd settings (which end up in a config file
somewhere)
(sorry, didn't send to the list at first)
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 14:53 -0700, richard duckworth wrote:
Hi all, trying to use [list-normalize], which relies on [list-abs] in turn and I keep getting 'couldn't create' messages (caused by the object list-abs). I'm on OS X 10.6.8 w/ Pd-xtended 0.43 (and 0.42 too). I've tried it on Win7 + Ubuntu as well but to no avail. I've checked that the externals are loaded. Any thoughts? All the best, Rich
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Actually, that lib is a bunch of externals so declare doesnt exactly apply... I dont know exactly why it happens, but it does... I had the same issue... what I did is, I opened the [list-abs] abstraction that stands for list absolute value and made a subpatch with its content.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, richard duckworth richduckworth@yahoo.comwrote:
Hi all, trying to use [list-normalize], which relies on [list-abs] in turn and I keep getting 'couldn't create' messages (caused by the object list-abs). I'm on OS X 10.6.8 w/ Pd-xtended 0.43 (and 0.42 too). I've tried it on Win7
- Ubuntu as well but to no avail. I've checked that the externals are
loaded. Any thoughts? All the best, Rich
Rich Duckworth Lecturer in Music Technology Department of Music House 5 Trinity College Dublin 2 Ireland
Tel 353 1 896 1500
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On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:14 -0300, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote:
Actually, that lib is a bunch of externals so declare doesnt exactly apply... I dont know exactly why it happens, but it does... I had the same issue... what I did is, I opened the [list-abs] abstraction that stands for list absolute value and made a subpatch with its content.
declare worked just fine when I tried it.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, richard duckworth richduckworth@yahoo.comwrote:
Hi all, trying to use [list-normalize], which relies on [list-abs] in turn and I keep getting 'couldn't create' messages (caused by the object list-abs). I'm on OS X 10.6.8 w/ Pd-xtended 0.43 (and 0.42 too). I've tried it on Win7
- Ubuntu as well but to no avail. I've checked that the externals are
loaded. Any thoughts? All the best, Rich
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Tel 353 1 896 1500
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On 2012-07-11 04:14, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote:
Actually, that lib is a bunch of externals so declare doesnt exactly
to avoid confusion, i want to add that "list-abs" is a bunch of abstractions.
iirc, declare's "-lib" flag might not work as expected on (older versions? of ) Pd-vanilla for this specific case. this may or may not be "fixed" with 0.43. (most likely, it will work if you have the "import" library loaded before)
in any case, you could add an _additional_ "-path list-abs" to declare's arguments.
apply... I dont know exactly why it happens, but it does... I had the same issue... what I did is, I opened the [list-abs] abstraction that stands for list absolute value and made a subpatch with its content.
sure. but i'd say that turning re-usable abstractions into subpatches is bad practice.
fgamsdr IOhannes
yes.. I know it is not the best solution. but as I understood, there was no problem with the library (collection of abstractions), the issue is that [list-abs] (absolute value abstraction) doesn't load. you can also rename de abstraction instead of applying it as a subpatch. As I said, I really don't know why that abstraction does not load while the others of that library load with no problem.
On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:12 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
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On 2012-07-11 04:14, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote:
Actually, that lib is a bunch of externals so declare doesnt exactly
to avoid confusion, i want to add that "list-abs" is a bunch of abstractions.
iirc, declare's "-lib" flag might not work as expected on (older versions? of ) Pd-vanilla for this specific case. this may or may not be "fixed" with 0.43. (most likely, it will work if you have the "import" library loaded before)
in any case, you could add an _additional_ "-path list-abs" to declare's arguments.
apply... I dont know exactly why it happens, but it does... I had the same issue... what I did is, I opened the [list-abs] abstraction that stands for list absolute value and made a subpatch with its content.
sure. but i'd say that turning re-usable abstractions into subpatches is bad practice.
fgamsdr IOhannes
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I think this abstraction doesn't load, because it has a conflict with the
folder(library) name. writing [list-abs/list-abs] works out well.
does this happen with other libraries, also with externals or just with
abstractions? never noticed.
yes.. I know it is not the best solution. but as I understood, there was
no problem with the library (collection of abstractions), the issue is
that [list-abs] (absolute value abstraction) doesn't load. you can also
rename de abstraction instead of applying it as a subpatch. As I said, I
really don't know why that abstraction does not load while the others of
that library load with no problem.On Jul 11, 2012, at 4:12 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
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On 2012-07-11 04:14, José Rafael SubÃa Valdez wrote:
Actually, that lib is a bunch of externals so declare doesnt exactly
to avoid confusion, i want to add that "list-abs" is a bunch of abstractions.
iirc, declare's "-lib" flag might not work as expected on (older versions? of ) Pd-vanilla for this specific case. this may or may not be "fixed" with 0.43. (most likely, it will work if you have the "import" library loaded
before)in any case, you could add an _additional_ "-path list-abs" to declare's arguments.
apply... I dont know exactly why it happens, but it does... I had the same issue... what I did is, I opened the [list-abs] abstraction that stands for list absolute value and made a subpatch with its content.
sure. but i'd say that turning re-usable abstractions into subpatches is bad practice.
fgamsdr IOhannes
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 06:18:46PM +0200, João Pais wrote:
I think this abstraction doesn't load, because it has a conflict with the folder(library) name. writing [list-abs/list-abs] works out well. does this happen with other libraries, also with externals or just with
abstractions? never noticed.
As far as I remember it is related to some kind of bug in Pd-extended or the [import] external or the libdir format or so, which fail when a libdir contains an abstraction that has the same name as the libdir. For the same reason the sssad abstraction was banned from Pd-extended in the past. Maybe that has changed now.
Personally I believe, a library format where you cannot use the same name for an object as the library's name is a flawed format. Anyway as the [list]-abs collection is a collection of abstractions, there is no need to use "-lib" to load it, use "-path" instead.
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