i have been "trying" to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
cheers mark
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm wrote:
i have been "trying" to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last time, but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted, it was just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background. commands, that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only applies, if you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course.
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what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
yeah its really weird....
i get:
"the application pd quit unexpectedly"
then i can ignore or relaunch...
either choice PD still runs in the background. the "ignore" or "relaunch" seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable...
anyone else with he same?
maybe its leopard thing?
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm wrote:
i have been "trying" to use shell... works
OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to
use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to work with others + other os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank
suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last time, but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted, it was just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background. commands, that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only applies, if you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course.
roman
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oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit "relaunch" or "ignore" or even if i just try to quit in general....
i have to "force quit"
and this has been like this for a little while on differnt systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure about tiger/ppc/intel - not sure if that all made a difference....
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu wrote:
From: mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: reduzierer@yahoo.de Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
yeah its really weird....
i get:
"the application pd quit unexpectedly"
then i can ignore or relaunch...
either choice PD still runs in the background. the "ignore" or "relaunch" seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable...
anyone else with he same?
maybe its leopard thing?
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm
wrote:
i have been "trying" to use shell...
works
OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would
love to
use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility
(osx)
because i tend to work with others + other os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank
suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just
quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last
time,
but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted,
it was
just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background.
commands,
that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only
applies, if
you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course.
roman
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Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to
force 'pd' to quit then relauch 'Pd-extended' (if i'm right).
++
Jack
Le 8 mars 09 à 21:12, mark edward grimm a écrit :
oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit "relaunch" or "ignore" or
even if i just try to quit in general....i have to "force quit"
and this has been like this for a little while on differnt
systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure about tiger/ppc/ intel - not sure if that all made a difference....--- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu wrote:
From: mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: reduzierer@yahoo.de Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just quit with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
yeah its really weird....
i get:
"the application pd quit unexpectedly"
then i can ignore or relaunch...
either choice PD still runs in the background. the "ignore" or "relaunch" seems to be only a nag screen that does not do anything... but at the same time creates the situation that make PD unusable...
anyone else with he same?
maybe its leopard thing?
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward grimm
wrote:
i have been "trying" to use shell...
works
OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would
love to
use it more ... if it had more cross-compatibility
(osx)
because i tend to work with others + other os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank
suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd just
quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell] the last
time,
but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i wanted,
it was
just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that it immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the background.
commands,
that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this only
applies, if
you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of course.
roman
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Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to
r u saying this might be a normal thing for pd-extended? for the most part no (actually on ubuntu 8.10 pd-extended recently i have to xkill fairly often?) on osx... but sometimes, more rarely, yes.
not sure what you are asking though... is this a general problem or an issue related to [shell] still?
m
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
From: Jack jack@rybn.org Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: reduzierer@yahoo.de, "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:18 PM Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to
force 'pd' to quit then relauch 'Pd-extended' (if i'm right). ++Jack
Le 8 mars 09 à 21:12, mark edward grimm a écrit :
oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit
"relaunch" or "ignore" or
even if i just try to quit in general....
i have to "force quit"
and this has been like this for a little while on
differnt
systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure
about tiger/ppc/
intel - not sure if that all made a difference....
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm
mgrimm@syr.edu wrote:
From: mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: reduzierer@yahoo.de Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
just quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
yeah its really weird....
i get:
"the application pd quit unexpectedly"
then i can ignore or relaunch...
either choice PD still runs in the background. the "ignore" or "relaunch" seems
to be only
a nag screen that does not do anything... but at
the same
time creates the situation that make PD
unusable...
anyone else with he same?
maybe its leopard thing?
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli
Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward
grimm
wrote:
i have been "trying" to use
shell...
works
OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went
anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and
would
love to
use it more ... if it had more
cross-compatibility
(osx)
because i tend to work with others + other
os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as
frank
suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
just
quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell]
the last
time,
but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i
wanted,
it was
just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that
it
immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the
background.
commands,
that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this
only
applies, if
you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of
course.
roman
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Le 8 mars 09 à 21:46, mark edward grimm a écrit :
Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to
r u saying this might be a normal thing for pd-extended? for the
most part no (actually on ubuntu 8.10 pd-extended recently i have
to xkill fairly often?) on osx... but sometimes, more rarely, yes.
No, it is not normal that Pd-extended crash ;) But it occurs
sometimes. And in this case, if 'Pd-entended' crash and 'pd' is
launched, you'd better to force to quit 'pd' before to relaunch 'Pd-
extended'.
not sure what you are asking though... is this a general problem or
an issue related to [shell] still?
This is not related to [shell], only a general behaviour. ++
Jack
m
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
From: Jack jack@rybn.org Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: reduzierer@yahoo.de, "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:18 PM Often, on MacOSX, when 'Pd-extended' quit, 'pd' stay. You have to force 'pd' to quit then relauch 'Pd-extended' (if i'm right). ++
Jack
Le 8 mars 09 à 21:12, mark edward grimm a écrit :
oh... and PD does not quit. even if i hit
"relaunch" or "ignore" or
even if i just try to quit in general....
i have to "force quit"
and this has been like this for a little while on
differnt
systems.. at least at the leopard level. not sure
about tiger/ppc/
intel - not sure if that all made a difference....
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, mark edward grimm
mgrimm@syr.edu wrote:
From: mark edward grimm mgrimm@syr.edu Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: reduzierer@yahoo.de Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:07 PM
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
just quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
yeah its really weird....
i get:
"the application pd quit unexpectedly"
then i can ignore or relaunch...
either choice PD still runs in the background. the "ignore" or "relaunch" seems
to be only
a nag screen that does not do anything... but at
the same
time creates the situation that make PD
unusable...
anyone else with he same?
maybe its leopard thing?
--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Roman Haefeli reduzierer@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli
Subject: Re: [PD] shell .... again.... To: mgrimm@syr.edu Cc: "pd_list" pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:02 PM On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 11:53 -0700, mark edward
grimm
wrote:
i have been "trying" to use
shell...
works
OK in linux but in osx it just crashes.
i am just wondering if this thread went
anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and
would
love to
use it more ... if it had more
cross-compatibility
(osx)
because i tend to work with others + other
os's.
maybe i should just change to pdlua as
frank
suggested? or might shell someday get fixed?
not sure what to do....
what are the symptoms of the crashes? does pd
just
quit
with a segfault, or does [shell] makes pd hang?
it's been a while, since i used [shell]
the last
time,
but i remember, that i could always make it work with what i
wanted,
it was
just a matter of writing the script in a way, so that
it
immediately exits or detaches the running processes to the
background.
commands,
that do not exit, will make [shell] block pd. all this
only
applies, if
you experience hangs, but not segfaults, of
course.
roman
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Hello Mark,
I use [shell] every days on MacOSX.4 with PowerPC and Intel. No
problem here.
++
Jack
Le 8 mars 09 à 19:53, mark edward grimm a écrit :
i have been "trying" to use shell... works OK in linux but in osx
it just crashes.i am just wondering if this thread went anywhere:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-01/067700.html
i have it in a bunch of patches now and would love to use it
more ... if it had more cross-compatibility (osx) because i tend to
work with others + other os's.maybe i should just change to pdlua as frank suggested? or might
shell someday get fixed?not sure what to do....
cheers mark
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Here, on 10.5.6(intel) [shell] crashes too.. But [popen] is working just fine... (what's the difference?) the [shell] crash happens simultaneously with the right outlet bang...
Jack escreveu:
Hello Mark,
I use [shell] every days on MacOSX.4 with PowerPC and Intel. No
problem here. ++Jack
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