Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't have the second window properties to do that when i get the properties of an array.
It's so sad !
Greetings
Ludo
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:52:19PM +0000, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't have the second window properties to do that when i get the properties of an array.
It's so sad !
i hope youre not using the debian package (it crashed my entire X-Windows...) try the latest v0.38 test and see if it helps, some types had to be changed, in particular relating to object properties and loading/saving...
have you been able to load soundfiles? if so, what format are your files? all mine are 32bit-float and the header-mangling stuff seems to be well...'mangled' on 64bit :)
Greetings
Ludo
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This might seem like an obvious question, but I'm not sure I understand the issues. What is the advantage of running PD on a 64-bit architecture? Does it run faster without code modifications (just compiler option changes)? Is there a 64-bit optimised version?
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at] On Behalf Of cdr Sent: 03 November 2004 17:12 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd on pure64 : Wrong value of array or tabread !
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:52:19PM +0000, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't ha
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jamie Bullock wrote:
This might seem like an obvious question, but I'm not sure I understand the issues. What is the advantage of running PD on a 64-bit architecture? Does it run faster without code modifications (just compiler option changes)? Is there a 64-bit optimised version?
Currently there are only disadvantages running Pd on a 64 bit machine. Later it will probably be the same, there are no 64bit optimisations. I think for signal processing there is not much gain going to 64 bit. The hardware sellers want to make us believe that we need 64bit, of course.
Guenter
Jamie
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On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:52:19PM +0000, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't ha
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On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:09:49AM +0100, guenter geiger wrote:
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Jamie Bullock wrote:
This might seem like an obvious question, but I'm not sure I understand the issues. What is the advantage of running PD on a 64-bit architecture? Does it run faster without code modifications (just compiler option changes)? Is there a 64-bit optimised version?
Currently there are only disadvantages running Pd on a 64 bit machine. Later it will probably be the same, there are no 64bit optimisations. I think for signal processing there is not much gain going to 64 bit. The hardware sellers want to make us believe that we need 64bit, of course.
64bit seems to provide about a 25-30% average boost on many things like DSP and compilation (compared to the same chip on 32bit OS), just due to additional general-purpose registers available for GCC to make use of...at least thats my general impression based on compile times, CPU meters, and similar results fron anandtech tests...
afaik the only disadvantage to using Pd on 64bit is soundfiles will not load...if im ever compelled to boot into linux again soon i'll take a look at it..
Guenter
Jamie
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On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:52:19PM +0000, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't ha
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, ix wrote:
afaik the only disadvantage to using Pd on 64bit is soundfiles will not load...if im ever compelled to boot into linux again soon i'll take a look at it..
That would be great !
Guenter
Guenter
Jamie
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at] On Behalf Of cdr Sent: 03 November 2004 17:12 To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd on pure64 : Wrong value of array or tabread !
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 05:52:19PM +0000, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't ha
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, ludovic watteaux wrote:
Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... :
I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong.
Hi,
Yes the behaviour of arrays is definitely buggy on 64 bit archs. Just tested on the alpha and I can see the same behaviour.
Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't have the second window properties to do that when i get the properties of an array.
I think this is a general bug in the 0.38 series. Would be good to report these two bugs to the bug tracking system. Should I do it, or do you want to give it a try ?
It's so sad !
Yes, it is, but at for least this problem we don't have to wait 4 years until it can be fixed.
Guenter
Greetings
Ludo
I've compile nicely pd-0.38-0test10 with gcc3.4 and now i've the second window properties (thanks to developpers) but the tabread go out the value "0" for each odd numbers (1, 3, 5, 7, etc) and the pair number go out the value of the array in order :
Index
0 = value of array(0)
1 = 0
2 = value of array(1)
3 = 0
4 = value of array(2)
5 = 0
6 = value of array(3)
7= 0
8 = value of array(4)
it is not so catastrophic !
The problem seam to come of tabread !
For the bug reporting i can do it on the new bug repport page.
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, ludovic watteaux wrote:
I've compile nicely pd-0.38-0test10 with gcc3.4 and now i've the second window properties (thanks to developpers)
yes, miller fixed tha.
but the tabread go out the value "0" for each odd numbers (1, 3, 5, 7, etc) and the pair number go out the value of the array in order :
Index 0 = value of array(0) 1 = 0 2 = value of array(1) 3 = 0 4 = value of array(2) 5 = 0 6 = value of array(3) 7= 0 8 = value of array(4)
it is not so catastrophic !
The problem seam to come of tabread !
For the bug reporting i can do it on the new bug repport page.
Would be great. Maybe Miller can fix it for the 0.38 release.
Guenter
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