Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
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On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
.hc
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
I checked the translation (transifex platform) and made modifications. Played a bit and changed some untranslated strings like Make app from patch/folder (see attached file). OSX 10.6.8, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121220: The preferences (⌘,) dialog-window has no resize handle so I introduced abbreviated translated strings to keep buttons/strings visible - in dialog_path.tcl:41 width 600 will suffice for full strings.
.hc
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
4 people seems a group eeem I mean a band to me :) - what numbers were you thinking to kick-off with? Also in meetings every one or two months there could be people who reside near Athens.
Cheers
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On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me, to be honest. I'd rather not make a combined Pd/Max group, it's a matter of ideology.
Cheers
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
I checked the translation (transifex platform) and made modifications. Played a bit and changed some untranslated strings like Make app from patch/folder (see attached file). OSX 10.6.8, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121220: The preferences (⌘,) dialog-window has no resize handle so I introduced abbreviated translated strings to keep buttons/strings visible - in dialog_path.tcl:41 width 600 will suffice for full strings.
.hc
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
4 people seems a group eeem I mean a band to me :) - what numbers were you thinking to kick-off with? Also in meetings every one or two months there could be people who reside near Athens.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me, to be honest. I'd rather not make a combined Pd/Max group, it's a matter of ideology.
Actually that very ideology could persuade Maxers to make the switch to Pd, if you held a meeting, couldn't it? :-)
Cheers
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
I checked the translation (transifex platform) and made modifications. Played a bit and changed some untranslated strings like Make app from patch/folder (see attached file). OSX 10.6.8, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121220: The preferences (⌘,) dialog-window has no resize handle so I introduced abbreviated translated strings to keep buttons/strings visible - in dialog_path.tcl:41 width 600 will suffice for full strings.
.hc
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
4 people seems a group eeem I mean a band to me :) - what numbers were you thinking to kick-off with? Also in meetings every one or two months there could be people who reside near Athens.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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dunno, perhaps..
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On 21 Δεκ 2012, at 12:03, "Peter P." p8rpp@aol.com wrote:
- adrcki@gmail.com adrcki@gmail.com [2012-12-21 10:53]:
ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me, to be honest. I'd rather not make a combined Pd/Max group, it's a matter of ideology.
Actually that very ideology could persuade Maxers to make the switch to Pd, if you held a meeting, couldn't it? :-)
Cheers
On 21 Δεκ 2012, at 9:00, subscriber subscriber@labyrinthos.gr wrote:
On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
I checked the translation (transifex platform) and made modifications. Played a bit and changed some untranslated strings like Make app from patch/folder (see attached file). OSX 10.6.8, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121220: The preferences (⌘,) dialog-window has no resize handle so I introduced abbreviated translated strings to keep buttons/strings visible - in dialog_path.tcl:41 width 600 will suffice for full strings.
.hc
On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
4 people seems a group eeem I mean a band to me :) - what numbers were you thinking to kick-off with? Also in meetings every one or two months there could be people who reside near Athens.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: > Hi list, > I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to > form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. > I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the > meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). > It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could > all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:00 AM, subscriber wrote:
On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
We've had good luck in NYC having a mixed Pd+Max meeting. They are both quite similar, and so many people use both.
I'm curious to hear what the Athens Pders and Maxers have to say about the Greek UI in Pd-extended 0.43.
I checked the translation (transifex platform) and made modifications. Played a bit and changed some untranslated strings like Make app from patch/folder (see attached file). OSX 10.6.8, Pd-0.43.4-extended-20121220: The preferences (⌘,) dialog-window has no resize handle so I introduced abbreviated translated strings to keep buttons/strings visible - in dialog_path.tcl:41 width 600 will suffice for full strings.
This translation stuff is still very new, so we'll definitely have to improve how somethings are handled. One example, things can be made to resize automatically based on the wide of the actual text, meaning the width of the buttons, etc. and therefore the window would match the width of the actual displayed text.
In the case of the Preferences window, because of the way its coded, that's not easy to do. So I just increased the width to 500 to give more room for the different languages. No doubt, Greek will not be the only language that needs more room. Spanish, Portugeuse, German, Japanese, and Chinese fit perfectly in 500. The window just looked bad at 600, so that's why I choose 500.
.hc
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On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, adrcki@gmail.com wrote:
No worries for the highjack Lorenzo and thanks for your wishes. Unfortunately it seems that people in Athens are using Max too, as I got no replies and till now I've found something like four people. I guess that I'll have to manage without a Pd group for now.
4 people seems a group eeem I mean a band to me :) - what numbers were you thinking to kick-off with? Also in meetings every one or two months there could be people who reside near Athens.
Cheers
On 12 Δεκ 2012, at 11:40, Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/12 08:09, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote:
Hi list, I'd like to call people who reside in Athens and use Pd of course to form a group so we can make regular meetups and all. I'm willing to organize things (arrange dates and places for the meetups, invite people, suggest discussion/presentation subjects etc.). It would be nice if Athenian Pders get active as a community, we could all benefit from it.
Alexandros, I wish you all the best luck!!
I'd love to have something like that over here, but it seems everyone uses using max/msp (on a mac) here in Italy, at least in Rome. :/
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)
Lorenzo
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On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Peter P. wrote:
- adrcki@gmail.com adrcki@gmail.com [2012-12-21 10:53]:
ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me, to be honest. I'd rather not make a combined Pd/Max group, it's a matter of ideology.
Proprietary software users may share knowledge for free and F(L)OSS users may charge to do so. Isn't in the concept of meetings to provide solutions and/or motivation to its members? (Conveniently get help in a matter of seconds or minutes in opposition to whatever else, like frustration). Or is it only about workshops/presentations of software use (pursuing or not clientele)?
Actually that very ideology could persuade Maxers to make the switch to Pd, if you held a meeting, couldn't it? :-)
What's this ideology anyway? ... maybe we should discuss it over a meeting :-P
Cheers
On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
This translation stuff is still very new, so we'll definitely have to improve how somethings are handled. One example, things can be made to resize automatically based on the wide of the actual text, meaning the width of the buttons, etc. and therefore the window would match the width of the actual displayed text.
In the case of the Preferences window, because of the way its coded, that's not easy to do. So I just increased the width to 500 to give more room for the different languages. No doubt, Greek will not be the only language that needs more room. Spanish, Portugeuse, German, Japanese, and Chinese fit perfectly in 500. The window just looked bad at 600, so that's why I choose 500.
Thanks - 500 is ok (only omitted "Reset to") - I updated the po on the transifex platform.
.hc
happy days,
Kyriakos
Ok, thought about it and I am now contacting Max and vvvv people, so we can make a graphical programming language group. The ideology is about open source and commercial. Max is the only commercial environment and I don't see the reason why so many people choose it over Pd (or others). Anyway, maybe this is just crap, so now I think we'll gather a pretty good number of people, so we can get it started. Kyriakos, are you interested? Should I have you in mind?
Greets, Alexandros
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Kyriakos Tsoukalas < subscriber@labyrinthos.gr> wrote:
On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Peter P. wrote:
- adrcki@gmail.com adrcki@gmail.com [2012-12-21 10:53]:
ok, four people would be ok if all four (or at least three) had some
stuff to show. But if it's gonna be one showing and the rest watching...dunno. Didn't expect huge numbers to start with, but what we have for now doesn't convince me, to be honest.
I'd rather not make a combined Pd/Max group, it's a matter of ideology.
Proprietary software users may share knowledge for free and F(L)OSS users may charge to do so. Isn't in the concept of meetings to provide solutions and/or motivation to its members? (Conveniently get help in a matter of seconds or minutes in opposition to whatever else, like frustration). Or is it only about workshops/presentations of software use (pursuing or not clientele)?
Actually that very ideology could persuade Maxers to make the switch to Pd, if you held a meeting, couldn't it? :-)
What's this ideology anyway? ... maybe we should discuss it over a meeting :-P
Cheers
On Dec 21, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
This translation stuff is still very new, so we'll definitely have to
improve how somethings are handled. One example, things can be made to resize automatically based on the wide of the actual text, meaning the width of the buttons, etc. and therefore the window would match the width of the actual displayed text.
In the case of the Preferences window, because of the way its coded,
that's not easy to do. So I just increased the width to 500 to give more room for the different languages. No doubt, Greek will not be the only language that needs more room. Spanish, Portugeuse, German, Japanese, and Chinese fit perfectly in 500. The window just looked bad at 600, so that's why I choose 500. Thanks - 500 is ok (only omitted "Reset to") - I updated the po on the transifex platform.
.hc
happy days,
Kyriakos