Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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hi miller,
something is wrong with the source tarball.. tcl scripts don't get installed system wide, pd complains:
Error in startup script: couldn't read file "/usr/lib/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl": no such file or directory
there are also two configure scripts, one that's pre-generated in the src folder, and another that can be generated with autogen.sh in the parent folder. both don't have install procedures for the tcl folder.
cheers, dmotd
On 03/21/2011 12:05 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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the release notes in the documentation are not updated - is there any info about this version?
Jurgen
On 21-Mar-2011, at 10:05 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
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Hi Miller and other devs,
PD 0.43 has an annoying bug... He somehow capture a color from the default color theme system and applies to background color of the canvases. I use Openbox, but I have KDE installed (Arch). I reported this last year, but it seems nobody looked at it...
Happy debugging season! :-)
Cheers
On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Hi Miller and other devs,
PD 0.43 has an annoying bug... He somehow capture a color from the default color theme system and applies to background color of the canvases. I use Openbox, but I have KDE installed (Arch). I reported this last year, but it seems nobody looked at it...
Happy debugging season! :-)
Cheers
Try fixing it with a GUI plugin:
- make a new file, call it ANYTHING-plugin.tcl, replace ANYTHING with
what you want to call it
- save this file into your externals path:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
- try adding this line to your ANYTHING-plugin.tcl file:
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.background "blue"
You can see an example here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugi...
.hc
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On 21 Mar 2011, at 23:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Hi Miller and other devs,
PD 0.43 has an annoying bug... He somehow capture a color from the default color theme system and applies to background color of the canvases. I use Openbox, but I have KDE installed (Arch). I reported this last year, but it seems nobody looked at it...
Happy debugging season! :-)
Cheers
Try fixing it with a GUI plugin:
So is this really a bug, or a feature?
Either way, it seems to me that users should have to write GUI plugins to make Pd have a usable background colour.
Jamie
make a new file, call it ANYTHING-plugin.tcl, replace ANYTHING with what you want to call it
save this file into your externals path:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
- try adding this line to your ANYTHING-plugin.tcl file:
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.background "blue"
You can see an example here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugi...
.hc
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Hans,
It worked for me:
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.background #E1E1E1
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.foreground #363554
I liked the idea of GUI plugins. Cool!
I agree too. But in my case I have a minimal setup with OpenBox. Probably because devs and users have tested more extensively on GNOME and MACOSX?
Do you guys already have a list of cool tk widgets to use?
The Ttk widgets included in Tcl/Tk 8.5 are meant to be drop-in
replacements for the Tk widgets, but are supposed to look nicer.
That's one collection to start with. There are many other collections
too, like bwidgets.
.hc
On Mar 22, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
I agree too. But in my case I have a minimal setup with OpenBox. Probably because devs and users have tested more extensively on GNOME and MACOSX?
Do you guys already have a list of cool tk widgets to use?
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On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 18:57 +0000, Jamie Bullock wrote:
On 21 Mar 2011, at 23:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Mar 21, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Hi Miller and other devs,
PD 0.43 has an annoying bug... He somehow capture a color from the default color theme system and applies to background color of the canvases. I use Openbox, but I have KDE installed (Arch). I reported this last year, but it seems nobody looked at it...
Happy debugging season! :-)
Cheers
Try fixing it with a GUI plugin:
So is this really a bug, or a feature?
Either way, it seems to me that users should have to write GUI plugins to make Pd have a usable background colour.
People should not have to write a plugin to have a usable background color, we agree there. But some people also heavily customize their OS's colors, or use window managers that have very different color schemes, so this is unfortunately not as simple as it seems. The canvas' background is already set to be white by default, but it seems on his computer, something is overriding that. A GUI plugin can easily override the thing that is overriding the default in pd-gui.tcl.
.hc
Miller, all other devs, contributors etc.
Thanks for the new release!
Quick feedback from a *very* quick session on Ubuntu 10.04.
Compiled and installed with ./configure --prefix=/home/lorenzo/bin/pd-vanilla so this is not a full system-wide install test.
- Everything went well audio works with both alsa and jack. alsa-midi
also works.
- Maybe due to specifying the PREFIX I don't get the error dmotd gets
- Where does pd pick the path for gui-rewrite plugins? In my case it
seems to search in /home/lorenzo/src/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/ which actually relates to another development version I was messing with.
- As for the aesthetics issues. I'm personally happy with the 'standard'
white canvas (fonts seem to be erratic at every install): would it make sense to create a simple configuration file in the form param=value holding the values as in he example Hans provided maybe with simpler-to-read entries (making it up):
canvas.bgcolor=#E1E1E1 canvas.fgcolor=#000000 canvas.fontface='DejaVu Sans Mono' canvas.fontsize=12 ui.bgcolor=#D3D3D3 ui.fgcolor=#000000 ui.fontface='Dejavu Sans' ui.fontsize=12
etc.
That's it for now. Ciao, Lorenzo.
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Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Miller, all other devs, contributors etc.
Thanks for the new release!
Quick feedback from a *very* quick session on Ubuntu 10.04.
Compiled and installed with ./configure --prefix=/home/lorenzo/bin/ pd-vanilla so this is not a full system-wide install test.
Which ./configure? The one in pd/ or the one in pd/src/?
- Everything went well audio works with both alsa and jack. alsa-
midi also works.
- Maybe due to specifying the PREFIX I don't get the error dmotd gets
- Where does pd pick the path for gui-rewrite plugins?
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
In my case it seems to search in /home/lorenzo/src/pd-gui-rewrite/ startup/ which actually relates to another development version I was
messing with.
Perhaps that's from your ~/.pdsettings?
- As for the aesthetics issues. I'm personally happy with the
'standard' white canvas (fonts seem to be erratic at every install):
would it make sense to create a simple configuration file in the
form param=value holding the values as in he example Hans provided
maybe with simpler-to-read entries (making it up):canvas.bgcolor=#E1E1E1 canvas.fgcolor=#000000 canvas.fontface='DejaVu Sans Mono' canvas.fontsize=12 ui.bgcolor=#D3D3D3 ui.fgcolor=#000000 ui.fontface='Dejavu Sans' ui.fontsize=12
The Tcl/Tk 'option' command is not far off of the above, and its much
better documented, and well known by many people, so there are more
people to ask. Here's an example:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugi...
.hc
etc.
That's it for now. Ciao, Lorenzo.
Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/ pure-data
cheers Miller
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Hi Hans,
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-0 released From: Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.at To: Lorenzo Sutton lsutton@libero.it CC: pd-list@iem.at Date: 23/03/11 19:02
On Mar 23, 2011, at 5:14 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Miller, all other devs, contributors etc.
Thanks for the new release!
Quick feedback from a *very* quick session on Ubuntu 10.04.
Compiled and installed with ./configure --prefix=/home/lorenzo/bin/pd-vanilla so this is not a full system-wide install test.
Which ./configure? The one in pd/ or the one in pd/src/?
The one in ./pd-0.43-0 (the top level) generated by running ./autogen.sh
- Everything went well audio works with both alsa and jack. alsa-midi
also works.
- Maybe due to specifying the PREFIX I don't get the error dmotd gets
- Where does pd pick the path for gui-rewrite plugins?
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
In my case it seems to search in /home/lorenzo/src/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/ which actually relates to another development version I was messing with.
Perhaps that's from your ~/.pdsettings?
Yes. It's in a pathN (path2) variable. So basically if I understand correctly gui plugins are treated like externals? That is if I place a plugin in /foo/bar and that path is in the ~/.pdsettings file it will be loaded at startup?
- As for the aesthetics issues. I'm personally happy with the
'standard' white canvas (fonts seem to be erratic at every install): would it make sense to create a simple configuration file in the form param=value holding the values as in he example Hans provided maybe with simpler-to-read entries (making it up):
canvas.bgcolor=#E1E1E1 canvas.fgcolor=#000000 canvas.fontface='DejaVu Sans Mono' canvas.fontsize=12 ui.bgcolor=#D3D3D3 ui.fgcolor=#000000 ui.fontface='Dejavu Sans' ui.fontsize=12
The Tcl/Tk 'option' command is not far off of the above, and its much better documented, and well known by many people, so there are more people to ask. Here's an example:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/scripts/guiplugi...
Ok, good point, I agree. Probably effort duplication.
Ciao, Lorenzo.
.hc
etc.
That's it for now. Ciao, Lorenzo.
Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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On 2011-03-24 08:26, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Perhaps that's from your ~/.pdsettings?
Yes. It's in a pathN (path2) variable. So basically if I understand correctly gui plugins are treated like externals? That is if I place a plugin in /foo/bar and that path is in the ~/.pdsettings file it will be loaded at startup?
the "path" settings are not specially for "externals". Pd's path is used by the object loading mechanism, but other mechanisms use it as well.
fga,sdr IOhannes
for some reason, starting pd-vanilla resets the horizontal part of my
wacom intuos3 tablet to the maximum. but it doesn't change the setting in
the wacom setup menu, it still shows being the right one. does Pd
interfere with the mouse settings or something?
João
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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On 2011-03-21 03:05, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
2 minor issues:
- pd-0.43.0 as released prints an ugly "was...1" (or 0, depending on
whether you run with realtime priorities) to the stderr. patch#3257780 fixes this [1]
- the "directory listing of all downloadable files" on miller's website
excludes the new release. (i only noticed since debian watches this file to detect any new releases, and it still tells me that the newest version available is 0.43-0test2)
fgmasdr IOhannes
[1] https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3257780&group_id=55...
Hi IOhannes -
Thanks for flagging these... the 'directory listing' problem caught me by surprise (CRCA has made me change the way I do that and I now have to update the list manually!) Anyhow it's up to 0.43-0.
THere are two or three tweaks (including the "was..." message" that I want to put in this weekend for a 0.43-1.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 05:42:01PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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On 2011-03-21 03:05, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data
2 minor issues:
- pd-0.43.0 as released prints an ugly "was...1" (or 0, depending on
whether you run with realtime priorities) to the stderr. patch#3257780 fixes this [1]
- the "directory listing of all downloadable files" on miller's website
excludes the new release. (i only noticed since debian watches this file to detect any new releases, and it still tells me that the newest version available is 0.43-0test2)
fgmasdr IOhannes
[1] https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3257780&group_id=55...
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Hey Miller,
I've been posting some relevant 0.43 bug fixes to the patch tracker,
so be sure to check that before your 0.43-1 update.
.hc
On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi IOhannes -
Thanks for flagging these... the 'directory listing' problem caught me by surprise (CRCA has made me change the way I do that and I now
have to update the list manually!) Anyhow it's up to 0.43-0.THere are two or three tweaks (including the "was..." message" that I want to put in this weekend for a 0.43-1.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 05:42:01PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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On 2011-03-21 03:05, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hi all,
Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/ pure-data
2 minor issues:
- pd-0.43.0 as released prints an ugly "was...1" (or 0, depending
on whether you run with realtime priorities) to the stderr. patch#3257780 fixes this [1]
- the "directory listing of all downloadable files" on miller's
website excludes the new release. (i only noticed since debian watches this
file to detect any new releases, and it still tells me that the newest version available is 0.43-0test2)fgmasdr IOhannes
[1] https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3257780&group_id=55...
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