On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:18 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

Andrew Cole wrote:

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Hi, Does anyone know of a way to grab messages that are printed to the PD window, for example if a sound file has a bad header or an object
fails to load?

use "-stderr" to dump them to the standard error, then redirect the stderr to stdout then pipe it to whereever you want.

i admit that this is not really trivial. this should give you a start:

pd -stderr -verbose 2>&1 | while read line do echo "${line};" | pdsend 6666 localhost udp done

you can then fetch everything that is printed via a udp-listener on
port 6666, either via pdreceive (which might be kind of pointless in this case) or via [netreceive] in either a separate pd-task or in the very same pd-task; be aware of feedbacks then! and of course you have no console any more...

That would be a nice script to have in /scripts/ with a matching patch.

.hc

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On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:18 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

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Andrew Cole wrote:

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Hi, Does anyone know of a way to grab messages that are printed to
the PD window, for example if a sound file has a bad header or an
object fails to load?

use "-stderr" to dump them to the standard error, then redirect the stderr to stdout then pipe it to whereever you want.

That would be a nice script to have in /scripts/ with a matching
patch.

Do you guys have a independent solution? I'm interested in
something for Windows...

Such scripts will run perfectly in Cygwin or MinGW on Windows.

.hc

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On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:00 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

Piotr Majdak wrote:

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Do you guys have a independent solution? I'm interested in
something for Windows...

well, afaik stderr redirection does work on linux; piping does too. the only thing which will most likely not work is the loop i am using. (note: the problem is, that for FUDI we need the trailing semicolon which involves some treatment of the strings output by pd; trivial
as it is, this would need some w32 script kiddie to do, not me....)

an even better solution would be to additionally send all messages
to a global receiver within pd. this way you could do

[r pd_console] | [route error verbose] | | | ... (this is for "post", [print])

Yes, that would be very nice. I thought I made a feature request in
the tracker for this, I guess I just thought about it.

.hc

Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. -David Zicarelli

in line with this thread i will pose question that I originally thought this thread would be about before reading it, based on the subject line alone.

does anyone know of a list of commands that are sent to Pd itself ?

The messages in this format, with the semicolon in and such.

[x]
| ; | pd dsp $1 (

For example, are there methods for changing attributes of the Tcl/Tk interface ?

tia,

./d5

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, day 5 wrote:

does anyone know of a list of commands that are sent to Pd itself ?

see pd/src/m_glob.c

For example, are there methods for changing attributes of the Tcl/Tk interface ?

No, for that you need to modify .c and/or .tk files.

(In DesireData you would instead go in "Client Preferences..." but eventually there might be a way to control both the Server Preferences (pdrc) and Client Preferences through ";pd" messages or similar.)

Currently, ";pd" messages don't allow configuring pd except in ways that were designed only for use by lib/pd/bin/pd.tk and so are quite difficult to use in any other way.

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On 4/28/06, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:

Andrew Cole wrote:

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Hi, Does anyone know of a way to grab messages that are printed to the PD window, for example if a sound file has a bad header or an object fails to load?

use "-stderr" to dump them to the standard error, then redirect the stderr to stdout then pipe it to whereever you want.

i admit that this is not really trivial. this should give you a start:

pd -stderr -verbose 2>&1 | while read line do echo "${line};" | pdsend 6666 localhost udp done

O_o

How much of this is through Pd, and where does the rest of it go?