Ah ok, I misunderstood. What I was referring to was *very* buggy behavior such as creating a bang with the key binding creates two bangs...
What you're talking about is the fact that macOS does not have "focus follows mouse", which it sounds like you are used to. Yes, clicking to focus the window is normal. You can hover over an unfocused window and scroll it but not click in without the initial focus click.
I'd suggest using CMD+` to cycle the currently active app's windows.
On Jul 19, 2017, at 6:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli <reduzent@gmail.com mailto:reduzent@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PD] One click too many on macOS Date: July 19, 2017 at 5:27:25 PM GMT+2 To: Pd-List <pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
On Mit, 2017-07-19 at 10:49 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Most of the UI error like this are because the first test build from Miller is using the buggy Tk 8.5.9. Please test with Tk 8.4 or with a custom build of something newer.
I built my own Pd-0.48.0.app and it uses 8.4:
Tk 8.4.19
and it still has the same behavior.
Since I remember using Pd on macOS, I had to click once for switching windows and another time for actually clicking on something. So this doesn't seem something new with this release.
Your post sounds to me as you have a different experience. Can you click a bang from a window that has not focus with a single click?
it took me a *long* time to figure out what was going on when I first tried the update years ago and happily through away all the double- bind & key event detection code I added by simply using a newer or older version of Tk.
Instead of wish8.4, should I try a newer self-built version, too?
Roman
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On Mit, 2017-07-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
Ah ok, I misunderstood. What I was referring to was *very* buggy behavior such as creating a bang with the key binding creates two bangs...
What you're talking about is the fact that macOS does not have "focus follows mouse", which it sounds like you are used to.
No, at least: I'm not used to windows coming into focus just by hovering them, if that's what you mean.
Yes, clicking to focus the window is normal. You can hover over an unfocused window and scroll it but not click in without the initial focus click.
Hm.. I don't have a Mac nearby right now, but last time I checked this: When Finder is not in focus, I can click on folder and the Finder window comes to the front AND the folder is selected. The same with any button in qjackctl. I didn't test any other apps. However, with Pd triggering a [bng] of a window that is not in focus requires two clicks. As far as I can tell, that behavior is specific to Pd and seems not to be a Mac paradigm (what I initially thought it would be).
I'd suggest using CMD+` to cycle the currently active app's windows.
Thanks, that is a handy shortcut.
Roman
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