you can use" graph on parent " to make nice looking abstractions too..

2012/1/12 Marco Donnarumma devel@thesaddj.com:

Pd has something called "elegant patching".... :P

No, I'm kidding, but Pd patches developed properly looked wonderful really. Just learn to organize conceptually and in the patch your ideas in a consistent flow.

Splines, and corners help to hide lack of organization, imho.

and anyway, I recall a plugin for pd 43 that hide chords in run mode.

my 2 cents, M

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is there any option in PD to make complex patches look less messy ?

for example in MAX you can hide all the connections in performance mode..

in VVVV - you can spline the hords

in MAX you also can make hords with different angles.. and so on..

is there any way in PD to tidy it all up ?

i can't find it.

maybe it is really something to do ?

thnx , serg !