Yes, a bounty system would be great. At this point, if you are not a student, Max/MSP/Jitter costs about $850 US. I think that (myself included) many Pd users would gladly shell out a few dollars to see features met. I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his site via PayPal, because I know of the importance of financial 'reinforcement.'
What is Matju's bounty on getting gridflow working out of box on OS X?
~Kyle
On Dec 6, 2007 2:05 PM, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source world will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer software. When developers make their bread and butter based upon if the consumer buys, they're more likely to pay attention to and implement the wishes of their users. Take Ableton. They actively parse their online forums for feature requests...and then implement them when a critical mass is reached.
There are some exceptions in the FOSS world. Ubuntu is quite user friendly (with the support of a large endowment from a very wealthy organization with a charter specifically devoted to bringing Linux to the non-programmer set of the world). Firefox is giving IE a run for it's money (although the primary codebase from FF comes from the old commercial, closed source Netscape).
Ubuntu, while open source, is a commercial product. Like Redhat Linux and many other commercial FLOSS products. For these kinds of open source software, money of course is one motivation, and if that money comes directly from the user, the user's wishes are a influencing the software more directly. Money is not a bad motivator, and it's even playing a role in our little Pd world, where some projects are or have been funded (like IIRC the early work by Hans on pd-extended, or many docs, which were made for paid workshops etc.)
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hey...
On Dec 6, 2007 5:50 PM, marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his site via PayPal,
now it's out, YOU were the one... marius.
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Le 6 déc. 07 à 22:05, Kyle Klipowicz a écrit :
Yes, a bounty system would be great. At this point, if you are not a student, Max/MSP/Jitter costs about $850 US. I think that (myself included) many Pd users would gladly shell out a few dollars to see features met. I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his site via PayPal, because I know of the importance of financial 'reinforcement.'
What is Matju's bounty on getting gridflow working out of box on OS X?
It would be nice to have this library directly in pd-extended ! ;) Or a great tutorial (How to install gridflow on osx for beginner ?)
Jack
~Kyle
On Dec 6, 2007 2:05 PM, Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source
world will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer software. When developers make their bread and butter based upon if the consumer buys, they're more likely to pay attention to and implement the wishes of their users. Take Ableton. They actively
parse their online forums for feature requests...and then implement them when a critical mass is reached.There are some exceptions in the FOSS world. Ubuntu is quite user friendly (with the support of a large endowment from a very wealthy organization with a charter specifically devoted to bringing
Linux to the non-programmer set of the world). Firefox is giving IE a run for it's money (although the primary codebase from FF comes from the old commercial, closed source Netscape).Ubuntu, while open source, is a commercial product. Like Redhat Linux and many other commercial FLOSS products. For these kinds of open source software, money of course is one motivation, and if that money comes directly from the user, the user's wishes are a influencing the software more directly. Money is not a bad motivator, and it's even playing a role in our little Pd world, where some projects are or
have been funded (like IIRC the early work by Hans on pd-extended, or many docs, which were made for paid workshops etc.)Ciao
Frank Barknecht _
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Yes, a bounty system would be great. At this point, if you are not a student, Max/MSP/Jitter costs about $850 US.
I don't know... invest in canadian dollars while they are "low", and when the crude oil barrel goes above 100$, use the canadian dollars to buy a MAX/MSP license. You may save up to 15%.
What is Matju's bounty on getting gridflow working out of box on OS X?
The bounty must be a way to make me stop thinking "please, not OSX!", and has to be paid in advance...
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