i've just recently started trying to make my things look like RRADical patches, where everything is inside a table, the interface is right there to use, and it's very neat! and i like it very much.
so when i go to make my very own table with buncha_cool_stuff_inside, i sheepishly made my canvas and started putting cool_stuff on top of the canvas only to find out when i closed the table... everything was unusably smooshed together. all my sliders and number boxes were on top of each other and indecipherable. i started moving things around inside the table to make it look nice when the table was closed, and i can get things to where i want them when my table is closed, but it's dreadful looking when i open my table. my canvas is in the upper left, the sliders are in the middle and my numbox's are off to the far right.
i can't figure out how to get the 1-to-1 relationship inside the table, as outside the table. please help explain my faulting here.
-andy
andy graybeal wrote:
i can't figure out how to get the 1-to-1 relationship inside the table, as outside the table. please help explain my faulting here.
-andy
I'm not sure what you mean by tables, but I'm assuming (wrongly?) that you mean subpatches or abstractions, for which Frank Barknecht made a graph-on-parent / GOP tutorial, which works well:
yea, i'm not understanding that tutorial as simple as it may be, and when i said tables, i did mean tables, because for some reason i thought this was done in tables (or graphs as pd calls them). i thought he made everything inside of a table and then just cut and paste that table into a 'new' pd window and saved.
i'll try the tutorial out and see what i come up with.
-andy
ClaudiusMaximus wrote:
andy graybeal wrote:
i can't figure out how to get the 1-to-1 relationship inside the table, as outside the table. please help explain my faulting here.
-andy
I'm not sure what you mean by tables, but I'm assuming (wrongly?) that you mean subpatches or abstractions, for which Frank Barknecht made a graph-on-parent / GOP tutorial, which works well:
http://footils.org/cms/show/31
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Hallo, andy graybeal hat gesagt: // andy graybeal wrote:
yea, i'm not understanding that tutorial as simple as it may be, and when i said tables, i did mean tables, because for some reason i thought this was done in tables (or graphs as pd calls them). i thought he made everything inside of a table and then just cut and paste that table into a 'new' pd window and saved.
You don't need any table for making cool looking graph on parent patches. My tutorial is a bit too short and just deals with lineing up elements in the most simple way, but it expects some prior knowledge about graph on parent. For a really good introduction to graph on parent in general I recommend Chun Lee's GOP howto:
http://goto10.org/-/pdgop.html
Additionally I would recommend to always use a background [cnv] because then you don't need to check the *.pd file's text source to find the width/height dimensions to use for resizing the patch in the parent patch. Instead you can just look at the [cnv] object's Properties dialog to see the width/height of the GOP patch.
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You don't need any table for making cool looking graph on parent patches. My tutorial is a bit too short and just deals with lineing up elements in the most simple way, but it expects some prior knowledge about graph on parent. For a really good introduction to graph on parent in general I recommend Chun Lee's GOP howto:
rock on, i'm reading it now.. i guess it's still hazy, i'm gonna work with it a bit more.
Additionally I would recommend to always use a background [cnv] because then you don't need to check the *.pd file's text source to find the width/height dimensions to use for resizing the patch in the parent patch. Instead you can just look at the [cnv] object's Properties dialog to see the width/height of the GOP patch.
i keep forgetting that there are lots of tidbits inside the actual .pd file if i would read it with a text editor, but i haven't transvexed my way there yet, so your info is one for the memory banks.
aight, thanks for the link to that gop helpme. -andy
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