Hi all,
now my big pd tutorial on
has a nice-looking design.
Cheers Johannes
-- www.kreidler-net.de
gosh, looks like a .com out there, is that the only way to make music with pd?
let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects?
sevy
Johannes Kreidler wrote:
Hi all,
now my big pd tutorial on
has a nice-looking design.
Cheers Johannes
-- www.kreidler-net.de
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Yea you can use some phasors and a random number generator or two, people do it all the time. Sounds horrible.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:34 AM, ydegoyon@gmail.com ydegoyon@gmail.comwrote:
gosh, looks like a .com out there, is that the only way to make music with pd?
let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects?
sevy
Johannes Kreidler wrote:
Hi all,
now my big pd tutorial on
has a nice-looking design.
Cheers Johannes
-- www.kreidler-net.de
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the meaning of that ( como unos son un poco espesos aki ) is that it's sad to think that there will be only one pd tutorial registered at www.pd-tutorial.com! that's what will come up on google, and of course this tutorial doesn't cover many things of pd, hem...
it seems to me there were more of them in the user space of the wiki... http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/ ( at least this one had an s )
but it's a general trend in pd community, hierarchy got in the place.. anarchy? no that's only diversity, sir...
pd : about the college jokes of a D.H., is that the same guy who refuses to document any FLOSS than runs only in Linux? that all should run on Windows? i just don't want to know.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:34 AM, ydegoyon@gmail.com mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com <ydegoyon@gmail.com mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com> wrote:
gosh, looks like a .com out there, is that the only way to make music with pd? let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects? sevy
Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on the
list a hard time. Why should anyone write a tutorial the way you want
it? Be punk rock, and do it yourself.
.hc
On Jul 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:
the meaning of that ( como unos son un poco espesos aki ) is that it's sad to think that there will be only one pd tutorial registered at www.pd-tutorial.com! that's what will come up on google, and of course this tutorial doesn't cover many things of pd, hem...
it seems to me there were more of them in the user space of the wiki... http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/ ( at least this one had an s )
but it's a general trend in pd community, hierarchy got in the place.. anarchy? no that's only diversity, sir...
pd : about the college jokes of a D.H., is that the same guy who refuses to document any FLOSS than runs only in Linux? that all should run on Windows? i just don't want to know.
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<ydegoyon@gmail.com mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com> wrote:
gosh, looks like a .com out there, is that the only way to make music with pd?
let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects?
sevy
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on the list a hard time. Why should anyone write a tutorial the way you want it? Be punk rock, and do it yourself.
.hc
On Jul 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:
the meaning of that
( como unos son un poco espesos aki ) is that it's sad to think that there will be only one pd tutorial registered at www.pd-tutorial.com! that's what will come up on google, and of course this tutorial doesn't cover many things of pd, hem...
it seems to me there were more of them in the user space of the wiki... http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/ ( at least this one had an s )
but it's a general trend in pd community, hierarchy got in the place.. anarchy? no that's only diversity, sir...
pd : about the college jokes of a D.H., is that the same guy who refuses to document any FLOSS than runs only in Linux? that all should run on Windows? i just don't want to know.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:34 AM, ydegoyon@gmail.com mailto: ydegoyon@gmail.com <ydegoyon@gmail.com mailto:ydegoyon@gmail.com> wrote:
gosh, looks like a .com out there, is that the only way to make music with pd?
let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects?
sevy
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on the list a hard time. Why should anyone write a tutorial the way you want it? Be punk rock, and do it yourself.
.hc
you seem to ignore and/or deny the problem, just have 2 things to tell you :
a/ if there's only one tutorial registered at pd-tutorial.com, why should i waste my time making another one?
b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people making the same kind of music and/or visuals, every library has its own help, why would you need to be guided from A to Z? result would be just another clone, like people learning to play guitar playing beatle's songs... not what i'm interested in,,,
saludos, sevy
a/ if there's only one tutorial registered at pd-tutorial.com, why should i waste my time making another one?
there's only one tutorial there because the site was made by the author
for the material he made himself. if you don't like it, you can write your
own tutorial/site, such as
"www.theoneandonlyreallyfreepdtutorial-nottobeconfusedwithpd-tutorial.com-whichisn'treallyfreeinthefirstplace.com"
- that way people will now that there's an even better site for a even
more open tutorial.
or give the author constructive suggestions in the way he can improve his
material.
b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people making the same kind of music and/or visuals, every library has its own help, why would you need to be guided from A to Z? result would be just another clone, like people learning to play guitar playing beatle's songs... not what i'm interested in,,,
you mean a clone in the same way it happens when someone reads the
helpfile of any library/object and does exactly what's described in the
helpfile, thus limiting the way he thinks? what would be the difference
then betwen a helpfile and a tutorial? I guess it's the user's choice if
he wants to be a clone or not, not of the material he reads. some people
are quite happy making/being clones, you can't force them to be "free"
(whatever that is).
On Jul 11, 2009, at 12:13 AM, ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on
the list a hard time. Why should anyone write a tutorial the way
you want it? Be punk rock, and do it yourself..hc
you seem to ignore and/or deny the problem, just have 2 things to tell you :
a/ if there's only one tutorial registered at pd-tutorial.com, why should i waste my time making another one?
b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people making the same kind of music and/or visuals, every library has its own help, why would you need to be guided from A to Z? result would be just another clone, like people learning to play guitar playing beatle's songs... not what i'm interested in,,,
saludos, sevy
Seriously Yves, put this energy into making a Pd tutorial in your
style. I've seen you teach Pd and I think you have a good method that
is different than most, and it would be great to see it in a tutorial.
No one will benefit from another flame war... there are many other
domains to be had:
pdtutorial.com pdtutorial.org etc.
.hc
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that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big
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On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 06:13:01AM +0200, ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:
b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people making the same kind of music and/or visuals, every library has its own help, why would you need to be guided from A to Z? result would be just another clone, like people learning to play guitar playing beatle's songs... not what i'm interested in,,,
Maybe you can think of these kinds of tutorials as a 'gateway drug' to harder Pd usage.
Keep on provoking,
Chris.
ydegoyon@gmail.com wrote:
let's say if i hate sequencers, reverbs and effects?
I suggest the banjo.
D.
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