Hi,
I searched the archives, but couldn't find any informations about the
thema. I'm considering buying an arduino board. I would like to hear
something from the participants about that one vs. the multiio. Important
topics would be:
- ease of use (what's necessary to install, etc)
- number / compatibility of sensors
- function in both windows and unix
- price
- behaviour on pratical situations (performances, concerts,
installations...)
- and any other that you can think of.
Thanks again,
joao
Hi,
I have both of them, but I haven't effectively used arduino yet..
- ease of use (what's necessary to install, etc)
multio can be used on linux with [hid] but I prefer using the external I wrote with mamalala: [multio], it runs on both linux and mac and windows, it requires libusb to be compiled (and libusb-win32)
arduino needs to be "programmed" using a proprietary software (java-based) that runs on mac and windows (and with some work should work on linux too). you have to know how to write java code to use arduino.
- number / compatibility of sensors
the multio highly outnumbers arduino in this (arduino has 6 analog ins, multio has up to 88)
- function in both windows and unix
see above
- price
arduino is cheaper than multio
- behaviour on pratical situations (performances, concerts,
installations...)
- and any other that you can think of.
arduino is nice because:
- it is cheap
- it is small
- once programmed it can work without a computer attached (for simple tasks)
multio is nice because:
- it is powerful
- doesn't need to be programmed
- it is extensible
ciao, davide.
Thanks again,
joao
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hi all,
let me add a few words to that:
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2006 18:11 schrieb Davide Morelli:
[...snip...]
arduino is nice because:
- it is cheap
- it is small
- once programmed it can work without a computer attached (for simple
tasks)
multio is nice because:
- it is powerful
- doesn't need to be programmed
- it is extensible
a few days ago i had the new usb framework installed, using sdcc and puf. that means that now the firmware of the multio is developed completely on linux in the future.
with that, the multio will also become a stand-alone usable device. i am
thinking of a forth-like language to allow user programs running on it,
making it usable stand-alone as well. also, it soon will allow to update the
firmware via usb as well, eliminating the need for a pic programmer to do
updates.....
altough the multio is rather big, it can be packed into an aluminium enclosure like this (the bigger one, its 103x56x168 mm in size) : http://www1.conrad.de/xl/5000_5999/5200/5230/5232/523224_BB_00_FB.EPS.jpg this type of enclosure is especially made to take up the euro-sized pcb format that multio uses (160x100 mm)
also you can decide what functions you want to have on the multio, reducing the overall cost of the unit. for example, if you only want adc and button inputs .... of course its always possible to upgrade it later.
oh, and whenever you need something special to connect to the multio, like a driver stage to control 64 relays/lamps/motors for example, i will do it for you. just say what you need. also "included" in the multio is free service service and repair. in case of a repair, you only need to pay the postages, thats all. in case of service, you can find me on #dataflow for that almost every day (or night, depending on your timezone ;)
greets,
chris
ciao, davide.
Thanks again,
joao
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Christian Klippel wrote:
in case of service, you can find me on #dataflow for that almost every day (or night, depending on your timezone ;)
Oh yeah, there's the #dataflow channel on irc.freenode.net, on which there
are 20-30 people. The PDDP meetings are held there, the pd-dev meetings
were held there (when there were any), but also there is lots of casual
conversation about pd, electronics, visual arts, music, and more.
Welcome to all Pd users.
_ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
Just a few details:
The arduino and the multio are plug in play. The arduino needs an aditionnal free USB driver on XP and OSX.
"arduino needs to be "programmed" using a proprietary software (java-based) that runs on mac and windows (and with some work should work on linux too). you have to know how to write java code to use arduino." Actually, programming the Arduino hardware takes one step through the open source IDE. Arduino is not programmed in JAVA but with an Wiring simple syntax (you can also use C syntax and functions if you are more advanced). http://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/HomePage for the basic commands.
Arduino works great on Debian. Here is how: http://www.danslchamp.org/mrtof/cours/arduino0004debian.html
The Arduino can be wireless (so could the be the multio) for less than 30$.
If you want to embed the Arduino or Multio into your creation, go for an Arduino (and buy a new one for every project): you will never have to dismantle your custom hardware, controller or installation If you want to use the same device for everything, go for a Multio.
Tom
Oh yeah, and both hardwares are open source.
Tom
On 4/19/06, Thomas Ouellet Fredericks iamonthebeach@gmail.com wrote:
Just a few details:
The arduino and the multio are plug in play. The arduino needs an aditionnal free USB driver on XP and OSX.
"arduino needs to be "programmed" using a proprietary software (java-based) that runs on mac and windows (and with some work should work on linux too). you have to know how to write java code to use arduino." Actually, programming the Arduino hardware takes one step through the open source IDE. Arduino is not programmed in JAVA but with an Wiring simple syntax (you can also use C syntax and functions if you are more advanced). http://www.arduino.cc/en/Reference/HomePage for the basic commands.
Arduino works great on Debian. Here is how: http://www.danslchamp.org/mrtof/cours/arduino0004debian.html
The Arduino can be wireless (so could the be the multio) for less than 30$.
If you want to embed the Arduino or Multio into your creation, go for an Arduino (and buy a new one for every project): you will never have to dismantle your custom hardware, controller or installation If you want to use the same device for everything, go for a Multio.
Tom
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