Hello list
I have a laptop now (Pentium M 1.72 GHz) and there's a void partition waiting for a Linux install. I want to use it for real time audio processing (Pure Data) and a few other things that are not very important here (Ardour, Scilab, Firefox, etc). After a quick look at the usual Internet places, I'm quite confused about distribution choice.
As I have some good experience of Red Hat 9 (the Planet CCRMA version) on a desktop, I investigated Fedora but according to what I read it looks quite big, complicated and slow because it would like to resemble Windows or OS X. I don't need so a lot of things and I have always believed that simple things work better. Maybe I'm wrong ...
Conversely, I don't want to loose time on technical things because I need to focus on music, so building my own distribution (or starting from Gentoo) is not possible (though really interesting) because it would take about 3 months or so. And maybe I don't need so specific complex tweaking for only doing realtime audio.
Some Linux distributions like Ubuntu seem to be a compromise between big linux and scratch linux but last time I tried Ubuntu I couldn't get correct low latency audio on it, hence I re-installed RH9. Did these medium-size distributions improve recently ?
There are also some "multimedia" linux like Agnula that I don't know anything about.
So which distribution would you recommand ? I need something efficient, performant for audio (I have a hdsp sound card that will help a lot), generic, that doesn't need 1 year of tweaking before working. The RH9 Planet CCRMA version was good and it included APT (mandatory). But things have changed and we are nearly in 2006 ... what if I would like to do a new track tomorrow ? :)
Thanks for your information
Regards Julien Breval
Hallo, julienbreval@free.fr hat gesagt: // julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
Some Linux distributions like Ubuntu seem to be a compromise between big linux and scratch linux but last time I tried Ubuntu I couldn't get correct low latency audio on it, hence I re-installed RH9. Did these medium-size distributions improve recently ?
There are also some "multimedia" linux like Agnula that I don't know anything about.
I'd try AGNULA/Demudi then (*not* A/Rehmudi, which is as dead as jMax). It's very nice and already optimized for audio work.
Ubuntu is nice, too, but to really get low latency going you need to invest a bit of time. However you could install the A/Demudi kernel on a Ubuntu system to shorten this path.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
(*not* A/Rehmudi, which is as dead as jMax).
-Same cause of death?
AvS
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` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +
` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # |
| http://www.schreck.nl/ |
| http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ |
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` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html |
` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html |
` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html |
` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html |
` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html |
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(*not* A/Rehmudi, which is as dead as jMax).
-Same cause of death?
Maybe.
-So we have to find the responsible coroner for the death-certificate...
AvS
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` |Schreck Ensemble . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +
` |# -laboratory for live electro-acoustic music- # |
| http://www.schreck.nl/ |
| http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/ |
` *===========================================================++
` |Compositions http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/compo.html |
` |Samples http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/samp.html |
` |Patches http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/pat.html |
` |Videos http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/video.html |
` |Scores http://www.xs4all.nl/~schreck/html/scores.html |
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is it possible to do this?
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
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? then you send netsend the same messages you send to gemwin...
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Patrick Pagano wrote:
Can someone share an example of how to receive a message from netsend |
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is it possible to do this?
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
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Hello,
(Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org wrote:)
I'd try AGNULA/Demudi then (*not* A/Rehmudi, which is as dead as jMax). It's very nice and already optimized for audio work.
I am currently downloading it. I never tried it before and appreciate that it's on one CD only. Thanks for the idea (I knew about Agnula when I was at Ircam but at that time it was still in development hence I installed the Linux from Planet CCRMA).
Regards, -j
Hello,
On an Acer Aspire Centrino laptop, when I want to install either Linux Debian or Ubuntu (Debian-based), the computer freezes after "Uncompressing Linux ........ Ok, booting the kernel".
Sometimes, not always, after the computer freezes a list of "FATAL modprobe xxxxxx" messages prints continuously on the screen, telling that some files are missing.
The Ubuntu live CD doesn't work either. Notice that the original ubuntu CDs that I have installs / boot correctly on a desktop. Let's try RH9 then ... (I still have the install CDs).
Some Linux distributions like Ubuntu seem to be a compromise between big
linux
and scratch linux but last time I tried Ubuntu I couldn't get correct low latency audio on it, hence I re-installed RH9. Did these medium-size distributions improve recently ?
There are also some "multimedia" linux like Agnula that I don't know
anything
about.
I'd try AGNULA/Demudi then (*not* A/Rehmudi, which is as dead as jMax). It's very nice and already optimized for audio work.
Ubuntu is nice, too, but to really get low latency going you need to invest a bit of time. However you could install the A/Demudi kernel on a Ubuntu system to shorten this path.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
Let's try RH9 then ... (I still have the install CDs).
With Red Hat 9 the installer starts but later I get a warning message, telling me that rh9 is not really compatible with the architecture of the machine so I should make a rescue floppy disk boot.
I don't have a floppy disk, nor a floppy drive. I can understand that this linux is too old but I don't want to lose time on all this because I have some more serious things to do. If there are some Acer Aspire Centrino laptop users here please tell me which Linux works on machine.
Regards, j
On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:18:28PM +0100, julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
Let's try RH9 then ... (I still have the install CDs).
With Red Hat 9 the installer starts but later I get a warning message, telling me that rh9 is not really compatible with the architecture of the machine so I should make a rescue floppy disk boot.
I don't have a floppy disk, nor a floppy drive. I can understand that this linux is too old but I don't want to lose time on all this because I have some more serious things to do. If there are some Acer Aspire Centrino laptop users here please tell me which Linux works on machine.
download the latest knoppix, the DVD image if you have the bandwidth. then you can install gentoo using tar, or debian using debootstrap, and chroot into it and set up the kernel and modules for your hw..
Regards, j
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download the latest knoppix, the DVD image if you have the bandwidth. then you can install gentoo using tar, or debian using debootstrap, and chroot into it and set up the kernel and modules for your hw..
I was thinking about something similar but I don't have much time currently for doing it
Hi Julien,
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 23:19 +0100, julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
download the latest knoppix, the DVD image if you have the bandwidth. then you can install gentoo using tar, or debian using debootstrap, and chroot into it and set up the kernel and modules for your hw..
I was thinking about something similar but I don't have much time currently for doing it
I don't think there's going to be a quick fix. I've just been installing Gentoo on an Acer travelmate, and in addition to the buggy DSDT, there are several kernel options that don't work together like PCMCIA support at boot and ACPI. Unless you are very lucky, I think you will have to either do what Frank says and lose some features via the kernel boot time flags, or compile your own kernel.
Have you checked if anyone has done it before on http://www.linux- laptop.net/?
That's great, when you have spent 2 months choosing the most performant and most generic laptop for a given price, and you then realize that no Linux will work directly on it and that under Windows there are some latency problems with the HDSP because ACPI has put it on the same IRQ number as many other devices. Manufacturers give very few information about their laptops, and so do internet forums and lists (I asked 4 different forums about HDSP audio laptop recommendations and got no anwser, besides "don't buy a Sony Vaio, it's too proprietary").
I agree with you, and when I have time I configurate and install my own linux distribution for making live music at 96000 kHz / 24 bit with no latency.
Selon Jamie Bullock jamie@postlude.co.uk:
I don't think there's going to be a quick fix. I've just been installing Gentoo on an Acer travelmate, and in addition to the buggy DSDT, there are several kernel options that don't work together like PCMCIA support at boot and ACPI. Unless you are very lucky, I think you will have to either do what Frank says and lose some features via the kernel boot time flags, or compile your own kernel.
Have you checked if anyone has done it before on http://www.linux- laptop.net/?
-- Regards,
Jamie
Hallo, julienbreval@free.fr hat gesagt: // julienbreval@free.fr wrote:
On an Acer Aspire Centrino laptop, when I want to install either Linux Debian or Ubuntu (Debian-based), the computer freezes after "Uncompressing Linux ........ Ok, booting the kernel".
Sometimes, not always, after the computer freezes a list of "FATAL modprobe xxxxxx" messages prints continuously on the screen, telling that some files are missing.
As it's getting way off-topic for pd-list, I would recommend to study some linux-laptop specicific site/lists/forums, but did you try some of the more advanced boot option? One favourite of mine is "noapic" or (for installing) the "acpi=off" option. Also there are some video-related option that could help.
Laptops are strange beasts.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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