Hi, dear List !
Is anybody here succesfully using Gem 0.94 on Windows ? I mean complete with image and video support ?
Since Gem 0.94, i was not able to run any image or videos anymore (it used to work fine with 0.93)
My setup is: PD 0.51 (64bit) / Gem 0.94 (64bit) / Windows 7 (64bit)
In an attempt to monitor error messages according to IOhannes' suggestions, i think that the most important errors i get are those:
GEM: load plugins 'film' in 'C:/Program Files/Pd/extra/Gem/' GEM: pattern : C:/Program Files/Pd/extra/Gem/gem_film*.dll GEM: dylib loading file 'C:/Program Files/Pd/extra/Gem/gem_filmAVI.dll'! GEM: GemDylib failed: #87: The parameter is incorrect. GEM: GemDylib throwing: DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect. GEM: library loading returned: DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect. GEM: dylib loading file 'C:/Program Files/Pd/extra/Gem/gem_filmDS.dll'! GEM: GemDylib failed: #87: The parameter is incorrect. GEM: GemDylib throwing: DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect. GEM: library loading returned: DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect.
and so on ...
Gem tries to load all .dll files from its directory and fails with "#87: The parameter is incorrect." and "DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect."
Maybe it's my old Windows 7 that is not supported ? ... In LINUX/Debian 10 everything works fine ! (can't test OSX atm, sorry)
Thanks for any suggestions or reports !
Best
Oliver
On 2020-06-16 14:52, oliver wrote:
Hi, dear List !
Gem tries to load all .dll files from its directory and fails with "#87: The parameter is incorrect." and "DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect."
wtf? that error message doesn't tell me anything.
in any case, could just just purge the extra/Gem folder and start anew?
also, what happens if you don't install Gem to @PDPATH@/extra but instead to "some other" location (including one without spaces....)
Maybe it's my old Windows 7 that is not supported ? ... In LINUX/Debian 10 everything works fine ! (can't test OSX atm, sorry)
this is an error very specific to windows, so i don't think there's much use testing the other systems...
gfamdsr IOhannes
On 2020-06-16 15:00, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 2020-06-16 14:52, oliver wrote:
Hi, dear List !
Gem tries to load all .dll files from its directory and fails with "#87: The parameter is incorrect." and "DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect."
wtf? that error message doesn't tell me anything.
in any case, could just just purge the extra/Gem folder and start anew?
also, what happens if you don't install Gem to @PDPATH@/extra but instead to "some other" location (including one without spaces....)
Hi, i just tried all of those, no difference.
Anyway, here is my complete error log file, maybe it tells you more in its completeness ?
http://klingt.org/fileservice/downloads/00970407159231471030-oliver_GEM_094_...
Best
Oliver
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/a5yoSB6LPwcBES2
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On 6/16/2020 10:40 AM, oliver wrote:
On 2020-06-16 15:00, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 2020-06-16 14:52, oliver wrote:
Hi, dear List !
Gem tries to load all .dll files from its directory and fails with "#87: The parameter is incorrect." and "DLLerror(0x57)The parameter is incorrect."
wtf? that error message doesn't tell me anything.
in any case, could just just purge the extra/Gem folder and start anew?
also, what happens if you don't install Gem to @PDPATH@/extra but instead to "some other" location (including one without spaces....)
Hi, i just tried all of those, no difference.
Anyway, here is my complete error log file, maybe it tells you more in its completeness ?
http://klingt.org/fileservice/downloads/00970407159231471030-oliver_GEM_094_...
Best
Oliver
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On 2020-06-16 17:14, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
those are the ones i expect to appear.
the ones that oliver are reporting are not.
gfamds IOhannes
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
I see ...
maybe it is a Win 7 thing after all
Unfortunately I haven't got a W10 machine at hand to test and verify. Will do as soon as i can.
@Lucas:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I have "ffdshow" on my computer, which served me fine so far. Still, that wouldn't explain the failures at the loading of image-related Gem-Plugins.
As reported, i'm getting those error messages at EVERY plugin Gem tries to load
Thanks so far !
Oliver
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I think I don't have anything installed. I use the portable VLC whenever I need to watch a movie. I never done video stuff and also never used Gem.
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On 6/16/2020 3:10 PM, oliver wrote:
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
I see ...
maybe it is a Win 7 thing after all
Unfortunately I haven't got a W10 machine at hand to test and verify. Will do as soon as i can.
@Lucas:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I have "ffdshow" on my computer, which served me fine so far. Still, that wouldn't explain the failures at the loading of image-related Gem-Plugins.
As reported, i'm getting those error messages at EVERY plugin Gem tries to load
Thanks so far !
Oliver
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Also my test with Win10 gives basically the same output as Win8.1
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On 6/17/2020 4:29 PM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I think I don't have anything installed. I use the portable VLC whenever I need to watch a movie. I never done video stuff and also never used Gem.
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On 6/16/2020 3:10 PM, oliver wrote:
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
I see ...
maybe it is a Win 7 thing after all
Unfortunately I haven't got a W10 machine at hand to test and verify. Will do as soon as i can.
@Lucas:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I have "ffdshow" on my computer, which served me fine so far. Still, that wouldn't explain the failures at the loading of image-related Gem-Plugins.
As reported, i'm getting those error messages at EVERY plugin Gem tries to load
Thanks so far !
Oliver
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Hi,
Gem 0.94 works fine for me on Windows 7 (with Pd 0.51 64-bit). I can load images and videos and use my webcam. This is the output of the Pd console:
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.94.git v0.94
...
GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI STB jpeg tiff
GEM: film loading plugins: DirectShow
GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg magick tiff
GEM: model loading plugins: ASSIMP3 OBJ
GEM: video capture plugins: VIDS decklink vnc
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I don't think this matters. In your case Gem fails to load its own plugins for whatever reason...
Googling "loadlibrary failed with error 87" suggests that this might a problem with the graphic card driver: https://community.amd.com/thread/192603. Dunno...
Christof
On 16.06.2020 20:10, oliver wrote:
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
I see ...
maybe it is a Win 7 thing after all
Unfortunately I haven't got a W10 machine at hand to test and verify. Will do as soon as i can.
@Lucas:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I have "ffdshow" on my computer, which served me fine so far. Still, that wouldn't explain the failures at the loading of image-related Gem-Plugins.
As reported, i'm getting those error messages at EVERY plugin Gem tries to load
Thanks so far !
Oliver
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Getting troubles when opening
Gem/examples/04.pix/05.film.pd
https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/tP5L2CzQGX7C6zs
but the webcam works.
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On 6/17/2020 5:22 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi,
Gem 0.94 works fine for me on Windows 7 (with Pd 0.51 64-bit). I can load images and videos and use my webcam. This is the output of the Pd console:
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.94.git v0.94 ... GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI STB jpeg tiff GEM: film loading plugins: DirectShow GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg magick tiff GEM: model loading plugins: ASSIMP3 OBJ GEM: video capture plugins: VIDS decklink vnc
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I don't think this matters. In your case Gem fails to load its own plugins for whatever reason...
Googling "loadlibrary failed with error 87" suggests that this might a problem with the graphic card driver: https://community.amd.com/thread/192603. Dunno...
Christof
On 16.06.2020 20:10, oliver wrote:
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
This are the errors i get on the console with -verbose and in the CMD on win8.1 without loading any example:
I see ...
maybe it is a Win 7 thing after all
Unfortunately I haven't got a W10 machine at hand to test and verify. Will do as soon as i can.
@Lucas:
What kind of video codecs (if any) do you have installed on your system ?
I have "ffdshow" on my computer, which served me fine so far. Still, that wouldn't explain the failures at the loading of image-related Gem-Plugins.
As reported, i'm getting those error messages at EVERY plugin Gem tries to load
Thanks so far !
Oliver
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Am 17. Juni 2020 23:05:43 MESZ schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Getting troubles when opening
Gem/examples/04.pix/05.film.pd
that's probably expected if you don't gave the right codec's installed (iirc the relevant codec was removed from windows a while ago. installing the "k-lite codec pack" should fix this...)
mfg.hft.fsl IOhannes
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
On 6/18/2020 3:46 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
installing the "k-lite codec pack" should fix this...)
Tested on Win10 and it works fine.
Hi, meanwhile i did tests on various machines (laptops and workstations)
Here are quick results (PD 0.51 / Gem 0.94):
No Win 7 machine could produce images nor video (ffdshow codecs were installed)
On all Win 10 machines, images did work. On all Win 10 machines, videos could be loaded but would freeze PD immediately (ffdshow codecs were installed, didn't try k-lite codecs)
here's my last error report (opened pix_film helppatch and loaded homer.avi):
http://klingt.org/fileservice/downloads/03113521159251667730-oliver_GEM_094_...
@Lucas: concerning your last report: did the video help patch REALLY work or did it just not throw error messages when you opened it ? what are your specs ?
@Christof: you seem to be the only one getting Gem 0.94 to work under Windows 7. What are your specs ?
(I followed your hint about the errors being related to graphic card issues, but that was purely AMD related - i have an intel/nvidia hybrid. but then i even tried my tests with dedicated graphic cards (set in BIOS) as well - no difference)
I would like to ask my initial question again:
Is anybody on this list successfully using Gem for works with videos under Windows ? If so, what are your specs (OS version, Machine, graphics card, codec pack) ?
Thanks for your kind support
Oliver
What are your specs ?
I have a Thinkpad L440 with integrated Intel graphics. Windows 7. K-Lite codec pack (I think "mega"): https://codecguide.com/
Christof
On 18.06.2020 23:45, oliver wrote:
Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
On 6/18/2020 3:46 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
installing the "k-lite codec pack" should fix this...)
Tested on Win10 and it works fine.
Hi, meanwhile i did tests on various machines (laptops and workstations)
Here are quick results (PD 0.51 / Gem 0.94):
No Win 7 machine could produce images nor video (ffdshow codecs were installed)
On all Win 10 machines, images did work. On all Win 10 machines, videos could be loaded but would freeze PD immediately (ffdshow codecs were installed, didn't try k-lite codecs)
here's my last error report (opened pix_film helppatch and loaded homer.avi):
http://klingt.org/fileservice/downloads/03113521159251667730-oliver_GEM_094_...
@Lucas: concerning your last report: did the video help patch REALLY work or did it just not throw error messages when you opened it ? what are your specs ?
@Christof: you seem to be the only one getting Gem 0.94 to work under Windows 7. What are your specs ?
(I followed your hint about the errors being related to graphic card issues, but that was purely AMD related - i have an intel/nvidia hybrid. but then i even tried my tests with dedicated graphic cards (set in BIOS) as well - no difference)
I would like to ask my initial question again:
Is anybody on this list successfully using Gem for works with videos under Windows ? If so, what are your specs (OS version, Machine, graphics card, codec pack) ?
Thanks for your kind support
Oliver
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Christof Ressi wrote:
What are your specs ?
I have a Thinkpad L440 with integrated Intel graphics. Windows 7. K-Lite codec pack (I think "mega"): https://codecguide.com/
Thank you all guys for reporting.
So it seems my laptop is jinxed after all ;-)
I really tried everything from changing codec packs to using an old image of a fresh win 7 install with no stuff on it apart from the native graphic card drivers.
No difference whatsoever, Gem 0.94 would never work with any image related material, at least not on my machine (Lenovo T530 with hybrid grahics card). Gem 0.93 works fine as ever.
I'm giving up at this point, but will keep testing on other windows machines to hopefully get a better picture of what might be the reason.
Still, good to know that it DOES work on other machines
Thanks again for your patience and time !
Oliver
Christof Ressi wrote:
What are your specs ?
I have a Thinkpad L440 with integrated Intel graphics. Windows 7. K-Lite codec pack (I think "mega"): https://codecguide.com/
Hi, dear all !
Coming back here after all, because i really think this needs being fixed if "Gem" wants to be usable in the windoze world:
Just tried PD 0.51 / Gem 0.94 / K-lite mega codec pack on a new and truly dedicated Win10 machine.
Bottom line is:
Only "homer.avi" works for video-playback, all other formats (mjpeg, ut, x264, mpeg etc.) will produce 1 frame and then freeze (= crash) PD.
the example clip "homer.avi" was encoded very long ago with the "indeo" codec, which has been discontinued officially since 2009 (so, the k-lite codec pack doesn't even come to play here). not even ffmpeg could encode a "indeo" video these days, let alone at any decent size.
Best
Oliver
there is a missing dll in distribution of gem for windows .
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/10723/how-to-install-gem-library-in-pd
Le sam. 11 juil. 2020 à 02:03, oliver oliver@klingt.org a écrit :
Christof Ressi wrote:
What are your specs ?
I have a Thinkpad L440 with integrated Intel graphics. Windows 7. K-Lite codec pack (I think "mega"): https://codecguide.com/
Hi, dear all !
Coming back here after all, because i really think this needs being fixed if "Gem" wants to be usable in the windoze world:
Just tried PD 0.51 / Gem 0.94 / K-lite mega codec pack on a new and truly dedicated Win10 machine.
Bottom line is:
Only "homer.avi" works for video-playback, all other formats (mjpeg, ut, x264, mpeg etc.) will produce 1 frame and then freeze (= crash) PD.
the example clip "homer.avi" was encoded very long ago with the "indeo" codec, which has been discontinued officially since 2009 (so, the k-lite codec pack doesn't even come to play here). not even ffmpeg could encode a "indeo" video these days, let alone at any decent size.
Best
Oliver
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On 6/18/2020 6:45 PM, oliver wrote:
concerning your last report: did the video help patch REALLY work or did it just not throw error messages when you opened it ? what are your specs ?
Win10-64 Pd-0.51-0 (64bit)
i5 m520 2.4ghz
intel HD graphics
K-Lite Codec Pack (standard)
I can play "homer.avi" with no trouble but I can't play the other 2 files with Gem (although I can play them with "Media Player Classic", the player that comes with k-lite)
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Le 18/06/2020 à 23:45, oliver a écrit :
Is anybody on this list successfully using Gem for works with videos under Windows ? If so, what are your specs (OS version, Machine, graphics card, codec pack) ?
I had almost all video and stream files working successfully by compiling/installing/using mpv external, not easy to do, and unreliable unless someone really qualified handles the windows version of this external
here's a hint:
Le 21/06/2020 à 17:15, Patrice Colet a écrit :
Le 18/06/2020 à 23:45, oliver a écrit :
Is anybody on this list successfully using Gem for works with videos under Windows ? If so, what are your specs (OS version, Machine, graphics card, codec pack) ?
I had almost all video and stream files working successfully by compiling/installing/using mpv external, not easy to do, and unreliable unless someone really qualified handles the windows version of this external
here's a hint:
I've made an archive containing all the stuff for mpv with windows10 (x86_64)
http://megalego.free.fr/pd/gem-mpv/mpv.zip
If you want to try it out, put mpv folder into c:\users<yourUserName>\appData\Roaming\pd\ then add this path into pd preferences and load mpv-help.pd patch.
Almost all video files should work, even 4k, but I couldn't make youtube streaming work again.
If you want to try it out, put mpv folder into c:\users<yourUserName>\appData\Roaming\pd\ then add this path into pd preferences and load mpv-help.pd patch.
Almost all video files should work, even 4k, but I couldn't make youtube streaming work again.
Hi, thanks a lot for your efforts !
Just tried your package. Unfortunately on my machine it fails with lots of "GL[1282]: invalid operation" error messages and the eventual pd crash.
Apart from that, i think that Gem should work on all systems without having to install anything besides it (safe for codecs), let alone selfcompiled .dlls
But, as i said: it's most likely a combination of my special machine (or graphic card) and the fact that i'm still on W7, as others don't seem to have that problem
Best
Oliver
Le 23/06/2020 à 00:33, oliver a écrit :
Just tried your package. Unfortunately on my machine it fails with lots of "GL[1282]: invalid operation" error messages and the eventual pd crash.
Ah ok it looks like this doesn't work an older version of openGL, thank you for trying.
But, as i said: it's most likely a combination of my special machine (or graphic card) and the fact that i'm still on W7, as others don't seem to have that problem
I've also been going into issues with gem-0.94 and video files.
With k-lite codecs I could only read the avi file from examples, the other ones crash pd.
Pd version 0.50.2, GEM: ver: 0.94.git v0.94, NVDIA GTX 1050.
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