Hey all,
The next PD Documentation/Workshop/Curriculum Meeting will be:
Nov 29th, 2005 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
#dataflow on freenode again.
Here are some notes on today's meeting (Nov 22nd)
we all seemed to agree that Unicode would be great in PD. (This is one of those pd-dev cross-over issues)
When is translation done? Per module? Per phase? How do we keep from redoing translation work?
Problem of relative font sizes on platforms (We need to fix this before the templates are really final, since they need to be tested and working on all platforms)
Different Aspects of "Documentation":
Curriculum:
Reference
reference links to all_about patches all_about links to reference patches all_about links to tutorials tutorials will link to all_about patches
Documentation can depend on one external, pddp_link.
Style Guide:
Ben has taken on the responsibility of creating for PDDP reference templates based on the discussion @ the meeting above.
For the nest meeting:
then the rest of the agenda from last week, which is more like a todo list:
Philosophy
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
HCS will post the log from the meeting at http://puredata.org/dev/pddp
Thanks all for coming today
b.
Yes, it was a good meeting, its good to know that there are a lot of people interested.
All of the info is on the PDDP wiki. I tried my hand at a template, starting with Ben's template-4:
Anyone else want to give it a shot?
.hc
On Nov 22, 2005, at 3:49 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hey all,
The next PD Documentation/Workshop/Curriculum Meeting will be:
Nov 29th, 2005 11.00 Pacific Time 14.00 Eastern Time 19.00 UTC 20.00 Central European
#dataflow on freenode again.
Here are some notes on today's meeting (Nov 22nd)
we all seemed to agree that Unicode would be great in PD. (This is one of those pd-dev cross-over issues)
When is translation done? Per module? Per phase? How do we keep from redoing translation work?
Problem of relative font sizes on platforms (We need to fix this before the templates are really final, since
they need to be tested and working on all platforms)
Different Aspects of "Documentation":
Curriculum:
- Collection of Tutorials
Reference
- PDDP Reference (one for each object)
- All_about (reference for a theme (eg looping))
reference links to all_about patches all_about links to reference patches all_about links to tutorials tutorials will link to all_about patches
Documentation can depend on one external, pddp_link.
Style Guide:
- Reference Templates should fit on a 800x600 screen.
- Change template-4 to use template-6 colours and template-6 "more
info"
- Colour Coded templates for tutorials and all_about patches.
- Make sure colours work on a greyscale printer
Ben has taken on the responsibility of creating for PDDP reference templates based on the discussion @ the meeting above.
For the nest meeting:
- deal with the font issue.
- Look at and evaluate new templates for reference
- start tutorial and all_about templates
- standard GUI elements
then the rest of the agenda from last week, which is more like a todo
list:
Philosophy
- How should PD be taught?
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
HCS will post the log from the meeting at http://puredata.org/dev/pddp
Thanks all for coming today
b.
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hi there,
All of the info is on the PDDP wiki. I tried my hand at a template, starting with Ben's template-4:
This is looking nice. However, I would really vote for a default text size of at least 12 pt: 10 pt are way too small on windozes. My optician is more than prepared to testify on this question :-)
with kind regards, thoralf.
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On Nov 23, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Thoralf Schulze wrote:
hi there,
All of the info is on the PDDP wiki. I tried my hand at a template, starting with Ben's template-4:
This is looking nice. However, I would really vote for a default text size of at least 12 pt: 10 pt are way too small on windozes. My optician is more than prepared to testify on this question :-)
Yeah, the font thing is a bummer. The thing is 12 pt is huge on Mac OS
X. 10 pt is sadly the middle ground, with Linux being close the
middle. The real solution is to get all platforms on the same font
sizes. oskude was working on that....
.hc
with kind regards, thoralf.
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, B. Bogart wrote:
- we all seemed to agree that Unicode would be great in PD. (This is one of those pd-dev cross-over issues)
Ah, just a confirmation that iso-latin-1 accents are already working in DesireData, thanks to Chun. I couldn't test it yesterday because my local copy was broken. iso-latin-1 should be enough to cover Français, Català, Deutsch, Español, Português, Nederlands, Dansk/Norsk/Svenska, Íslensku, Suomeksi, which already covers maybe 90% of the Pd world.
But, if someone wants to look into UTF-8, that would be nice. :)
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