Hi list,
If this friendly competition hapens, and since the second PDconvention will happen in Montréal, Québec (Canada) in august 2007, it could be a good ideal to show all the patch submited.
The patchs submited could be presented in a general public exhibition where the patchs could be shown with good sound and video, or robotic, or network system, etc. Beeing on the organisation comity of this convention, I know there is some exhibition spaces in Montréal that could be interested.
We may have to do a schedule of presentatioin if there is to many patchs but still, they should all be shown. Not just the so called "Winners"...
Anyways...Just a thought!
Marc
De: "David Powers" cyborgk@gmail.com Date: 2006/08/30 mer. AM 11:17:49 GMT-04:00 À: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Objet: Re: [PD] pd-competition?
I think this is a cool idea.
My only concern would be, whether cross-platform and version issues, which are obviously still being sorted out by some of us, might be a problem. What happens if someone who is judding six entries, can't run three of them for some reason?
~David
On 8/30/06, Christopher Charles schraubzwingenhalterung@web.de wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
But in all seriousness, this is a great idea. I'd love to use--uh, judge the competitors patches, and learn better techniques through it.
How would you propose the vote? By a panel of veterans? By the whole list?
i don't know yet. a jury of veterans would throw up the question who is a veteran and who is not and would prevent those veterans from taking part in the competition. i'd rather suggest some kind of community-vote; taking it out on the list might generate a lot of traffic though. a good solution might be a series of (closed?) polls on a page like puredata.info, but i don't know if that's possible.
On 8/30/06, Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
Just watch out for the best visual external category...flamewar! ;-)
i did not include an externals category into my suggestions, for they are often too diverse and specialized to compare.
charlie
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Hallo, Marc Fournel hat gesagt: // Marc Fournel wrote:
If this friendly competition hapens, and since the second PDconvention will happen in Montréal, Québec (Canada) in august 2007, it could be a good ideal to show all the patch submited.
The patchs submited could be presented in a general public exhibition where the patchs could be shown with good sound and video, or robotic, or network system, etc. Beeing on the organisation comity of this convention, I know there is some exhibition spaces in Montréal that could be interested.
We may have to do a schedule of presentatioin if there is to many patchs but still, they should all be shown. Not just the so called "Winners"...
Anyways...Just a thought!
Good thought, as that's exactly what happened with the patches from the first pd-compo during the first pd-convention. ;) It's in fact the only time I've ever seem all compo patches.
However as Montreal is still some way to go, we could also start with some compos now.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
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It might happen that i say something already mentioned, but i could not read all messages in this thread in detail...in which case, i'm sorry...
I think there are certainly two categories for sure. Complexity, invention and "taking PD to its limits" it is certainly appealing and interesting, but it could end up to be just a scientific competition (which could be fine, no critics). Certainly one of the final goals with PD is to facilitate, composers, partist and performer to create *art* with this great tool and indeed a great composition could be done with the simpliest patch ever ( maybe a osc~ 440 to dac .. very punk, no volume control etc...:-) )
Many of my stundents are convinced that a great composition, installation or performance in order to be well done "artistically" requires a supercomplex pd patch... and it is difficult to explain them that this is not always true, sure it might happen that an artistic project requires a super complex patch, or even a new object...
Finally i would certainly think about having one part of the competition for the best "abstraction" - in the sense a pd patch as final project, i.e. an acoustic piano that produce a continous human moan in Keith Jarret style (or Glenn Gould)...:-) - and an artistic project that uses PD.
my 1/1000 of a cuban cent,
marco trevisani
30/08/2006 alle 19:22:08, +0200, Frank Barknecht [AKA fbar] ha scritto/escribió/wrote: | Hallo, | Marc Fournel hat gesagt: // Marc Fournel wrote: | | > If this friendly competition hapens, and since the second PDconvention will happen in Montréal, Québec (Canada) in august 2007, it could be a good ideal to show all the patch submited. | > | > The patchs submited could be presented in a general public exhibition where the patchs could be shown with good sound and video, or robotic, or network system, etc. Beeing on the organisation comity of this convention, I know there is some exhibition spaces in Montréal that could be interested. | > | > We may have to do a schedule of presentatioin if there is to many patchs but still, they should all be shown. Not just the so called "Winners"... | > | > Anyways...Just a thought! | | Good thought, as that's exactly what happened with the patches from | the first pd-compo during the first pd-convention. ;) It's in fact the | only time I've ever seem all compo patches. | | However as Montreal is still some way to go, we could also start with | some compos now. | | Ciao | -- | Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ | | _______________________________________________ | PD-list@iem.at mailing list | UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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This is a very insightful comment!
~Kyle
On 8/30/06, Marco Trevisani marco@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
Many of my stundents are convinced that a great composition, installation or performance in order to be well done "artistically" requires a supercomplex pd patch... and it is difficult to explain them that this is not always true, sure it might happen that an artistic project requires a super complex patch, or even a new object...
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