Hey Everybody,

Sorry for the late reply.

I really would like to work to a PD conference in Brazil.

I am from Belo Horizonte (UEMG-UFMG-FUMEC) and my background is music performance, analysis, acoustics psychoacoustics, mediation technology, guitar, PD, Eyesweb, origami arquitecture... I love Macs, I work in a PC...I love PD but I work also with Matlab... I love Samba but I am working in the academic world... It is difficult this task to be subversive into the enemy's field ! 8-)

I have experience with projects in Brazil (FAPEMIG, FINEP, research) and I can help with contacts, writing the project, finding money and support. I worked also in projects related with music education content for computer aided education and I know what the funding agencies want to read....

Let's be practical:

(We can put subjects like free software, 3rd world and information, art/show/science/resistance actions into the conference timetable!)

Who decides where will be the conference? What we have to provide in order to be a serious option? Who is pointing to São Paulo (must be there?)? Where is the PD community of Brazil? Who are the Brazilians or Pd users active in this proposition? We need a specific list.

Best!

Luiz

On 9/10/07, Ed Kelly morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hey alex, good to see you in Montreal,

I think the small things happen all the time, at least that's what we strive for I hope. Meanwhile, the big thing can happen too in 2009. One thing I think would be a really good idea is if there is some kind of map around when things happen - the conferences always happen at about the same time every year. I've been at the ICMC twice now and I intend to go again, but that's always the last week of August or first week of September (for example).

Really, conferences are far too short -- and busy. If we can find a two-week window in the international conference schedule (ISMIR. ICMC. Pris Ars Electronica, NIME etc) then we could do it then.

Balancing this, those of us who have academic commitments need the summer to finalize our work, often, so maybe late July/Early August would be a good time?

But---this is two years away. We still need to be precise about it though, because funding agencies are keen to have timetables/schedules etc.

And I was gutted I didn't go to the party...but I'd love to see you all in Sao Paulo in two years time...

Best, Ed

*PORRES mentalosmosis@yahoo.com* wrote:

...

If it is a problem to get university support

Is actually the opposite. I Believe we could get much more involvement and fundings from it here in Brasil! :)

...

You don't need to have the developers, you need people who stick together

Sure, Cool... And as I said, it's nice to have some local meetings before an international one... and the goal must be gathering people! Users, whatever... like you described.

...

It's better to organise the schedule so that people organised in one thing aren't likely to be

interested in the other thing that

...

happens at the same time

hmmm, yeah, the event in Montreal could be much longer if things werent all at the same time...

We could have here a longer event. If it is "smaller", things could be not simultaneous... one way or another, there should be plenty space and material for a Convention here...

Cheers alexandre torres porres

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You should add a link to that list on the mailing list page so others
can find it:

http://puredata.org/community/lists

Also, we are about to launch the pdpedia in Portuguese:

http://wiki.puredata.info/pt/

.hc

On Oct 5, 2007, at 5:14 PM, PORRES wrote:

we are coming up with a national list on it:

pd-eventos-regionais@googlegroups.com

please join, and so do other brasileiros and invite other people...

I am pointing to Sao Paulo :)

i think if we come up with a reasonable proposal, it can be decided
to be here...

cheers alex

Luiz Naveda lab.naveda@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everybody,

Sorry for the late reply.

I really would like to work to a PD conference in Brazil.

I am from Belo Horizonte (UEMG-UFMG-FUMEC) and my background is
music performance, analysis, acoustics psychoacoustics, mediation
technology, guitar, PD, Eyesweb, origami arquitecture... I love
Macs, I work in a PC...I love PD but I work also with Matlab... I
love Samba but I am working in the academic world... It is difficult this task to be subversive into the enemy's field !
8-)

I have experience with projects in Brazil (FAPEMIG, FINEP,
research) and I can help with contacts, writing the project,
finding money and support. I worked also in projects related with
music education content for computer aided education and I know
what the funding agencies want to read....

Let's be practical:

(We can put subjects like free software, 3rd world and information,
art/show/science/resistance actions into the conference timetable!)

Who decides where will be the conference? What we have to provide in order to be a serious option? Who is pointing to São Paulo (must be there?)? Where is the PD community of Brazil? Who are the Brazilians or Pd users active in this proposition? We
need a specific list.

Best!

Luiz

On 9/10/07, Ed Kelly morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hey alex, good to see you in Montreal,

I think the small things happen all the time, at least that's what
we strive for I hope. Meanwhile, the big thing can happen too in
2009. One thing I think would be a really good idea is if there is
some kind of map around when things happen - the conferences always
happen at about the same time every year. I've been at the ICMC
twice now and I intend to go again, but that's always the last week
of August or first week of September (for example).

Really, conferences are far too short -- and busy. If we can find a
two-week window in the international conference schedule (ISMIR.
ICMC. Pris Ars Electronica, NIME etc) then we could do it then.

Balancing this, those of us who have academic commitments need the
summer to finalize our work, often, so maybe late July/Early August
would be a good time?

But---this is two years away. We still need to be precise about it
though, because funding agencies are keen to have timetables/ schedules etc.

And I was gutted I didn't go to the party...but I'd love to see you
all in Sao Paulo in two years time...

Best, Ed

PORRES < mentalosmosis@yahoo.com> wrote:

...

If it is a problem to get university support

Is actually the opposite. I Believe we could get much more
involvement and fundings from it here in Brasil! :)

...

You don't need to have the developers, you need people who stick

together

Sure, Cool... And as I said, it's nice to have some local meetings
before an international one... and the goal must be gathering
people! Users, whatever... like you described.

...

It's better to organise the schedule so that people organised in one thing aren't likely to be

interested in the other thing that

...

happens at the same time

hmmm, yeah, the event in Montreal could be much longer if things
werent all at the same time...

We could have here a longer event. If it is "smaller", things could
be not simultaneous... one way or another, there should be plenty
space and material

for a Convention here...

Cheers alexandre torres porres Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at
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can't estudio livre set up a list really?

sevy

We already have a list at puredeposito@estudiolivre.org since 3 years ago... https://listas.estudiolivre.org/mailman/listinfo/puredeposito

I've already invite everybody several times. :P

I'd prefeer our own forum too.

still waiting for you there.

abraççz

glerm

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Luiz Naveda wrote:

I love Samba but I am working in the academic world...

Richard Feynman was a highly reputed academic who was also known to have a taste for that kind of dance. (but then, he was prof in particle physics, not music...)

Who decides where will be the conference?

There is no ctee for that. One could be formed if there is a need. For example, if there are two cities that are beginning to organise an int'l PdConvention for which the target dates are too close (e.g. less than 9 months), and neither gives up. Compliance with that ctee is voluntary, so, two PdConventions may happen "too close" anyway, if neither group gives up, but former PdConvention organisers would most likely give support to exactly one of them.

What we have to provide in order to be a serious option?

• Some system of contribution to travel fees.
• Some system for hosting people in homes.
• Some system of selection of artworks, performances, papers
• Room for enough people, like 100 for papers, 250 for perfs, approx; we have not gotten to those numbers of actual people (afaik), but it's good to have some slack, just in case. Make your own estimates for your own convention.

Who is pointing to São Paulo (must be there?)?

It started as a conversation between Alexandre Porres and I, and extended to Alexandre Castonguay and others.

Where is the PD community of Brazil?

If they don't know the existence of each other, or never meet much in any form, then it's not really a community, but instead it might be a potential for a community.

I know that in Montréal there are *several* pd communities that don't interact much with each other. We could say somewhat otherwise now that pd convention is past, but it's a sign when you go to a conf and meet several pd users from your own city that you never saw even though you went to the user group meetings 10 times already. It could also all be that part of the users that just aren't part of the community in that sense at all, but I've heard about some kind of communities limited to one department or university. I've not really investigated whether they deserve to be called as such or not.

I believe that I'll just organise the first post-convention user group meeting and see whether i encounter any new people and perhaps we can have a roundtable about getting people more involved in the club, i mean, at least get people to show up :)

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