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hghoyer

8 Feb 2011 8 Feb '11

3:49 p.m.

Dear all,

I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists...

They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge in PD...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is that in

Max as possible like in PD ???

Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your Patch

completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see the source code

I´m happy about more Arguments,

Thanks very much, hgh

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Pedro Lopes

8 Feb 8 Feb

4 p.m.

It is open source. You don't have to pay..... You want to fuc* up the whole source and create your own PD. go ahead. Mine has parallel multicore support (openMP).

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:49 PM, hghoyer hghoyer@googlemail.com wrote:

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Dear all,

I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists...

They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge in PD...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is that

in Max as possible like in PD ???

Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your Patch

completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see the source code

???

I´m happy about more Arguments,

Thanks very much, hgh

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martin.peach＠sympatico.ca

5:08 p.m.

...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is

that in Max as possible like in PD ???

Yes, see: http://cycling74.com/products/sdk/

Apart from that, Pd is free and also runs on linux.

Martin

Hans-Christoph Steiner

5:50 p.m.

On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:08 AM, martin.peach@sympatico.ca <martin.peach@sympatico.ca

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wrote:

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...
So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better
one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is

that in Max as possible like in PD ???

Yes, see: http://cycling74.com/products/sdk/

Apart from that, Pd is free and also runs on linux.

It turns out that the Max/MSP and PD APIs are very close, so you can
write/port externals for both without too much effort.

Pd is very portable and flexible and you can run it on many platforms:

GNU/Linux Mac OS X Windows iPhoneOS Android Maemo on any embedded Linux-based system on hardware DSP chips integer-only mobile CPUs (PDa)

The MSP part of Max/MSP is built using the sources from Pd (see the

startup screen on Max/MSP).

you can make highly-optimized builds for your own CPU.
its embeddable into other programming languages (libpd):

C/C++ OpenFrameworks Java

Any many more, depends really on what you want to do.

.hc

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realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either
change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

Pedro Lopes

9 Feb 9 Feb

3:54 a.m.

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its embeddable into other programming languages (libpd):

C/C++ OpenFrameworks Java

I really need to start using libpd .. argh argh.. not enough time for everything! :)

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:

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its embeddable into other programming languages (libpd):

C/C++ OpenFrameworks Java

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Tedb0t

8 Feb 8 Feb

5:10 p.m.

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On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:49 AM, hghoyer wrote:

...

Dear all,

I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists...

They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge in PD...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is that in Max as possible like in PD ??? Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your Patch completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see the source code ??? I´m happy about more Arguments,

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Jose Luis Santorcuato

5:24 p.m.

You can replicate the experience, lessons, send the work to different places ... otherwise restricts the knowledge.

José

2011/2/8 Tedb0t lists@liminastudio.com:

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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:49 AM, hghoyer wrote:

Dear all,

I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists...

They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge in PD...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one...

I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is that in Max as possible like in PD ??? Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your Patch completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see the source code ???

I´m happy about more Arguments,

Thanks very much, hgh _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Morgan Packard

5:35 p.m.

You can run PD on your toaster.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato < santorcuato76@gmail.com> wrote:

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You can replicate the experience, lessons, send the work to different places ... otherwise restricts the knowledge.

José

2011/2/8 Tedb0t lists@liminastudio.com:

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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:49 AM, hghoyer wrote:

Dear all,

I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists...

They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge

in

...
PD...

So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better

one...

...
I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max?

My Arguments are:

In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is that in

Max

...
as possible like in PD ??? Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your Patch completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see the source

code

...
???

I´m happy about more Arguments,

Thanks very much, hgh _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Lorenzo Sutton

10 Feb 10 Feb

8:24 a.m.

Eating out similitude :)

MAX -> (Mac)-Donalds: shiny, clean-looking, polite(ish) staff, family-friendly, frozen food, 'bundle' menus, same reassuring tastes, customers attracted by to the 'experience'

PD -> Italian/[put your traditional cuisine here traditional restaurant/trattoria/pizzeria: not-so-shiny, not-so-clean, (un)friendly less marketing-oriented staff, strong language may be heard, fresh food preferably from local market, incredible variety and taste and of the food starting from what the smell, dish of the day depending on season/availability/owner's mood, customers attracted by food quality and/or people

Lorenzo.

hghoyer wrote:

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Dear all, I will start a interactive Sound Project with some Artists... They´ve Basic knowledge in Max... And i´m Fan of PD with Medium knowledge in PD... So we´ve to compare PD with Max and then will decide for the better one... I prefer PD, so i need some Arguments for PD... Why PD and non Max? My Arguments are:
* In PD you can easily write own Objects in PD (With C/C++ --> Is
  that in Max as possible like in PD ???
* Synthesizer PRototyping with PS: If You want to transfer Your
  Patch completely in C++, Its easier with PD, because You can see
  the source code
* ???
I´m happy about more Arguments, Thanks very much, hgh

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Hans-Christoph Steiner
hghoyer
Jose Luis Santorcuato
Lorenzo Sutton
martin.peach＠sympatico.ca
Morgan Packard
Pedro Lopes
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