I am sorry if this conversation has taken place before and I missed it, but is it expected that the default parameters (size etc) for most (all?) iemguis has changed with 0.53 compared to 0.52 (and possibly all previous versions)? E.g.: hsl width: 128->162 height: 15->19 label font size: 10->12 y-offset: -8->-10 tgl: Size: 15->9 label font size: 10->12 X-offset: 17->0 Y-offset: 7->-10

I am asking because it's quite a big change in look and this was meant to be a minor release ... and it's not mentioned in the changelog

Thanks, Giulio

Alexandre Torres Porres wrote on 16/10/2022 22:49:

Em dom., 16 de out. de 2022 às 16:34, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <pd-announce@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-announce@lists.iem.at> escreveu:

To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.53-0test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

This is a test version that mostly just fixes bugs in version 0.52, including
one serious problem reading soundfiles.

Great, I imagine the actual final version should come quite soon.

I'll have a look to see if I can add a couple more documentation updates, I just found a typo in the [nbx] help file. I can also suggest more details to the release notes in the manual. We can mention the new deken version, and I can say there is at least one new feature, which is the unification of vertical and horizontal sliders and radio buttons, which can now have their orientation changed via the 'orientation' message. Maybe we can add that (I'll send a commit as a suggestion soon).

cheers
Miller



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On 10/21/22 18:23, Giulio Moro via Pd-list wrote:

I am sorry if this conversation has taken place before and I missed it, but is it expected that the default parameters (size etc) for most

from my side: yes, totally expected:

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1638

(all?) iemguis has changed with 0.53 compared to 0.52 (and possibly all previous versions)? E.g.: hsl  width: 128->162  height: 15->19  label font size: 10->12  y-offset: -8->-10 tgl:  Size: 15->9  label font size: 10->12  X-offset: 17->0  Y-offset: 7->-10

this is not entirely correct.

if you use a font-size of "8", then the sizes stay (mostly?) the same. if you use a font-size of "32", the a toggle will have a size of "49" instead of 15.

that is: the default size of the iemguis now adapts to the default size of the rest of the canvas. toggles and hsliders will now have the same default height as an ordinary object box.

I am asking because it's quite a big change in look

in the *default* look. the iemguis store their absolute sizes, so if you open an old patch, it will still have those tiny sliders.

and this was meant to be a minor release ... and it's not mentioned in the changelog

well, it was meant to be a bugfix release, but was upgraded to a "major" release because the changes were too big for a simple bugfix release. (since Pd doesn't really use the "major" version number, the "minor" version number is bumped for a major release)

in any case, there have been plenty of changes to the iemguis, see e.g. https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1633

and yes: some of it should probably be mentioned in the release notes.

gdmsa IOhannes