Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both an audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the main audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is that Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd...
I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called “autorun”and edit with gedit or wathever
*#!/bin/bash zenity --info –text="you can put what you need or what you like"*
This file must be in the root directory of cd, not in folders...then the o.s check your permission and open the file...check...
Best regards
José
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzinger ingo@miamiwave.com
Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both an audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the main audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is that Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
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Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
autorun
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but unfortunately I don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device"
...
Option "NoDDC" "1"
EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to detect whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui" or "-nogui" . I think
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that creates 2 instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the command line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best way to go with my setup.
Ingo
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzinger ingo@miamiwave.com Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both
an
audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the
main
audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is
that
Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
“autorun”
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but unfortunately I don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device" ... Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to detect whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui" or "-nogui" . I think
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged, why not starting pd gui?
c
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that creates 2 instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the command line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best way to go with my setup.
Ingo
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzingeringo@miamiwave.com Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both
an
audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the
main
audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is
that
Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
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is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
I tried it but the patch didn't start.
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
autorun
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but unfortunately
I
don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device" ... Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to
detect
whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui"
or
"-nogui" . I think
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
c
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that
creates 2
instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the
command
line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best
way to
go with my setup.
Ingo
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzingeringo@miamiwave.com Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing
both
an
audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while
the
main
audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled
with a
LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem
is
that
Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches.
That
didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to
some
kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a
remote
desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-
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Le 13/08/2010 12:49, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
I tried it but the patch didn't start.
maybe you also need to force a screen size. what happen if you plug a screen after booting?
it's possible to have absolutely no difference if a screen is plugged or not.
c
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
“autorun”
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but unfortunately
I
don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device" ... Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to
detect
whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui"
or
"-nogui" . I think
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
c
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that
creates 2
instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the
command
line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best
way to
go with my setup.
Ingo
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzingeringo@miamiwave.com Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing
both
an
audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while
the
main
audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled
with a
LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem
is
that
Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches.
That
didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to
some
kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a
remote
desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-
list
Hi Cyrille,
I guess I did set the screen size but maybe there is some other important information that is missing in the xorg.conf. Here is what my xorg.conf looks like:
Section "ServerFlags" Option "BlankTime" "0" Option "StandbyTime" "0" Option "SuspendTime" "0" Option "OffTime" "0" EndSection
Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Configured Video Device" Monitor "Configured Monitor" DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
-- Connecting the monitor after booting results in "no signal" at the monitor output --
If I start both Pd patches -nogui from $home/.bashrc after starting X-Server from here they work with or without a monitor connected. But it looks like .bashrc cannot start graphical programs (like /etc/.rclocal). So GEM is not showing anything.
If I start the Pd patches from the startup of fluxbox they both work (incl. graphics) with the monitor but do not start without the monitor connected. Very strange!
I suppose Pd cannot start the pd-gui since it thinks that there is no monitor to display anything.
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 12:49, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is
pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
I tried it but the patch didn't start.
maybe you also need to force a screen size. what happen if you plug a screen after booting?
it's possible to have absolutely no difference if a screen is plugged or
not.
c
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
autorun
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but
unfortunately
I
don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that
your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device" ... Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to
detect
whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui"
or
"-nogui" . I think
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is
pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
c
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that
creates 2
instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the
command
line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best
way to
go with my setup.
Ingo
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzingeringo@miamiwave.com Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing
both
an
audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while
the
main
audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled
with a
LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem
is
that
Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd
patches.
That
didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to
some
kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a
remote
desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ingo Scherzinger wrote:
-- Connecting the monitor after booting results in "no signal" at the monitor output --
That's probably a better question for the Ubuntu forums rather than here...
But when you get the answer, post it here ! I've had also such problems of "no signal" a year ago but didn't have time to look for an answer back then.
But is this a problem dependent on the video card ? I remember a similar problem with detection of monitors on a videocard that had two inputs and had to pick one of the outputs as the default one. Unfortunately, I don't recall the details.
I suppose Pd cannot start the pd-gui since it thinks that there is no monitor to display anything.
Is the X11 server running at all ? Use 'ps' or 'top' to see, and/or get the log in "/var/log".
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hello,
here is mine on my laptop (so i have everytime a screen) : but i use same kind of xorg with desktop where instllation can work with / without screen.
i declare somes metamode, but this may work only with nvidia driver.
c
Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Option "Xinerama" "0" EndSection
Section "Files" EndSection
Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" EndSection
Section "Monitor"
# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "HIQ B70A"
HorizSync 31.0 - 81.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 9650M GT" # Option "TripleBuffer" "True" EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "TwinView" "1" Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-0" Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0" Option "NoLogo" "True" Option "RegistryDwords" "PowerMizerEnable=0x1; PerfLevelSrc=0x2222; PowerMizerDefault=0x1; PowerMizerDefaultAC=0x1" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection
Le 13/08/2010 16:26, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi Cyrille,
I guess I did set the screen size but maybe there is some other important information that is missing in the xorg.conf. Here is what my xorg.conf looks like:
Section "ServerFlags" Option "BlankTime" "0" Option "StandbyTime" "0" Option "SuspendTime" "0" Option "OffTime" "0" EndSection
Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device" Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
Section "Monitor" Identifier "Configured Monitor" EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Configured Video Device" Monitor "Configured Monitor" DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" EndSubSection EndSection
-- Connecting the monitor after booting results in "no signal" at the monitor output --
If I start both Pd patches -nogui from $home/.bashrc after starting X-Server from here they work with or without a monitor connected. But it looks like .bashrc cannot start graphical programs (like /etc/.rclocal). So GEM is not showing anything.
If I start the Pd patches from the startup of fluxbox they both work (incl. graphics) with the monitor but do not start without the monitor connected. Very strange!
I suppose Pd cannot start the pd-gui since it thinks that there is no monitor to display anything.
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 12:49, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is
pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
I tried it but the patch didn't start.
maybe you also need to force a screen size. what happen if you plug a screen after booting?
it's possible to have absolutely no difference if a screen is plugged or
not.
c
Ingo
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi everybody!
@ José:
Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called
“autorun”
and edit with gedit or wathever
That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but
unfortunately
I
don't!
@ Cyrille
depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that
your
computer
start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration.
That one is actually working. I had to add this to "xorg.conf"
Section "Device" ... Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection
This way Ubuntu wouldn't search for the screen. Now I only have to
detect
whether a screen is present or not and start the 2nd patch with "-gui"
or
"-nogui" . I think
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is
pluged,
why not
starting pd gui?
c
[dmesg] | [shell]
should somehow work for that.
@ Bernardo
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that
creates 2
instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
That won't change the fact that Ubuntu won't start up. Changing the
command
line to start the Pd patch is already good enough for that.
Thank you all for your suggestions. I think Cyrille's way is the best
way to
go with my setup.
Ingo
> 2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzingeringo@miamiwave.com > Hi there, > > is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing
both
an
> audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen? > > I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while
the
main
> audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled
with a
> LCD remote unit. > With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem
is
that
> Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected. > > I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd
patches.
That
> didn't work! > It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected. > > Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to
some
> kind of a "virtual monitor" if not? > > Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a
remote
> desktop) > > Thanx for any hints, > Ingo
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hello, depending on your gpu, you can override screen detection, so that your computer start graphical interface when no screen is detected. look for xorg configuration. C
Le 12/08/2010 18:53, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit :
Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both an audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the main audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is that Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that creates 2 instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzinger ingo@miamiwave.com:
Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both an audio and GEM patch either with or without a screen?
I got a patch that contains some kind of gui working with GEM while the main audio patch doensn't need any graphics. All editing can be handled with a LCD remote unit. With the monitor connected everything works as expected. The problem is that Ubuntu (10.04) won't boot without any screen connected.
I tried not to start X and fluxbox and go directly to the Pd patches. That didn't work! It still only boots (in text mode) with the monitor connected.
Is there any way to detect if a monitor is hooked up and connect to some kind of a "virtual monitor" if not?
Could VNC be used for that? (Though I don't really need or want a remote desktop)
Thanx for any hints, Ingo
Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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